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Rear Blade on M

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cheg

12-18-2003 06:18:46




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I read a lot of the archives about installing a 3-point hitch on the back of an M. The other day, I learned that my back is not what it used to be. I have a large driveway and had to scoop it twice in one week. I also live on a snow route and get bladed in by the city.

I have a fully restored M sitting in my garage. I use it for summer shows and antique machinery demonstrations. I would like to leave the tractor basic. I am thinking about adding a saginaw 3 point hitch and a rear blade to it. The Saginaw would still allow me to use the drawbar in the summer.

How well does an M do with a rear blade? I know a lot of people use a front blade and a loader on their M. I would hate to take a loader and front blade on and off every year.

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Dave in CT

12-18-2003 16:09:05




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 Re: Rear Blade on M in reply to cheg, 12-18-2003 06:18:46  
I located a snow plow frame and blade (seperately) for my '47 H fairly easily and inexpenively - the two came to about $80. The frame required fabrication of a couple of 'ears' to match the mount points on the blade. Once this was done, the mounting of both the frame and blade was very easy for this neophite. Using some 3" angle, I extended the draw bar to form a platform for a rock box. The added rear weight came to 460 pounds which I'm guessing is around the weight of the frame and blade. Even though I need to change the angle of the blade manually, the system works admirably. I've plowed 6" of really wet snow on a moderate grade with nary a slip. I don't know if this would be more trouble than what you're considering but I thought you might be able to use an as-experienced plow-forward account.

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Jared in VT

12-18-2003 10:45:45




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 Re: Rear Blade on M in reply to cheg, 12-18-2003 06:18:46  
Cheg,

Great idea, no sweat. I use an 8 foot grader blade, mounted to an after-market 3pth on my SMTA. I plow snow on 1/2 mile of steep, twisty driveway. The tires are loaded and I mount tire chains too. In the past I plowed with a JD B and a front mounted blade. Very primitive. I like the flexibility of the rear blade and the option to either push or pull the snow. I've moved up to 24" of new snow, but prefer a foot or less at time. As they say, "...plow with the storm." Don't get scared off by the naysayers. A $35,000 truck with a Fisher Quick-Switch plow sure looks grand. And with the radio and heater on, you hardly know it's snowing! Your M will move all the snow you can stand, and put it pretty much where you want it. Keep your three points of contact as you climb on and off the old girl and you'll do it with ease. Enjoy. The next best thing to a new tractor, is a new implement!

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Dave

12-18-2003 10:31:28




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 Re: Rear Blade on M in reply to cheg, 12-18-2003 06:18:46  
Where are you located? I'm in western WI. I build 3 pt conversions for M's and H's. They attach with 6 bolts with no cutting, drilling or welding. The origional hitch all stays on the tractor with the exception of the angle braces. They sell for $450 and require an 8" stroke cyl.



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cheg

12-18-2003 19:37:56




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 Re: Re: Rear Blade on M in reply to Dave, 12-18-2003 10:31:28  
I am in Central Kansas.



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Alan

12-18-2003 15:15:53




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 Re: Re: Rear Blade on M in reply to Dave, 12-18-2003 10:31:28  
Dave,

You don't happen to biuld 3 point hitchs that fit those green two cylinder trators? I know, wrong board, but it would be a little hard to get three point on our F-20.

Alan



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Matt K.

12-18-2003 09:40:43




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 Re: Rear Blade on M in reply to cheg, 12-18-2003 06:18:46  
I use a 3-point blade on my H for plowing snow,
works quite well I think.From the ones I have looked at the saginaw seems to be the best built.
Mine is not,so I had to fabricate a bracket to
be able to attach my original drawbar on.The only
thing that would be nice is a little faster reverse gear,and set of chains.



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Jed

12-18-2003 09:35:23




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 Re: Rear Blade on M in reply to cheg, 12-18-2003 06:18:46  
I have a 3 pt. on my M and one of the things it does is plow snow. A 7 ft. rear blade works best. I use mind to clear small areas in the woods also. I tried an 8 footer, but even with 16.9 tires on my tractor I didn't have enough power to push a full blade of dirt etc. It would probably be okay on snow though. You will find that you will use the 3 point for other things too. I have added a 3 pt. rear boom and it is very handy. As far as getting on and off I just step on the left arm and then to the axel and up.

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Ted

12-18-2003 09:03:23




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 Re: Rear Blade on M in reply to cheg, 12-18-2003 06:18:46  
Cheg,
I remember reading a post kind of like this during the Summer. If you do not really need 3pt I would not put it on the tractor just to plow snow. Somebody posted a picture of a really nice plow frame they built to put on the front of an M it looked very strong and simple. On that frame you could mount a pickup truck type plow. I think that it would be the best way to go and it is on my list of things to build. I have been plowing snow in Western New York for over 18 years with an M, 3pt hitch, and back up blade. It works, you need weight on the tractor and it always pushed all the snow I had to push. The only problem is going backwards all the time, every time I go backwards I wish I was going frontwards it is a pain. Some people like the loader and plow set up but, if you can't angle the plow that can be a problem if you are trying to do a nice job or plow a big area. The snow plow with an angle blade in the front is the way to go. I will search my notes to find the picture of the frame set up if you are interested in going that route or maybe someone can put thier hands on it quick. One last thing my M with the 3 pt is not easy to get on, very difficult for my dad.
Good Luck

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rustyfarmall

12-18-2003 07:47:40




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 Re: Rear Blade on M in reply to cheg, 12-18-2003 06:18:46  
This might be a good excuse to add another tractor to your stable. It could be one that is not real pretty to look at, but would still be dependable.



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Kelly C

12-18-2003 07:31:08




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 Re: Rear Blade on M in reply to cheg, 12-18-2003 06:18:46  
I was thinking of a idea to put a back blade on my H with out a 3pt. I was going to weld up some non movable 3pt arm that I could bolt to the draw bar. This would have a section welded to it to attach a hydralic cylinder where the top link would attach. The cylinder could raise and lower the blade.
Wonder if any one has ever done this?



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Bowlegs

12-18-2003 09:42:37




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 Re: Re: Rear Blade on M in reply to Kelly C, 12-18-2003 07:31:08  
Kelly we mounted 2 u brackets on the old H we had and used 2 long arms connected to the 5ft mower. Bolted a piece of 3x3 angle to the top of the rearend and used a cylinder to raise the brushhog. Had to add a piece of chain and hook it to the hog so the cyl would reach. leave the chain a lil slack and the blade would go up and down with the ground also used the same set up with a box blade and it worked well.

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rustyfarmall

12-18-2003 07:45:16




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 Re: Re: Rear Blade on M in reply to Kelly C, 12-18-2003 07:31:08  
Neat idea, and it might work, if the driveway you were clearing was perfectly flat and level. I don't know how you would get the blade to follow an uneven surface.



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