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paul

12-17-2003 17:49:04




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Rebuilder. Took your advice and took the inspection cover off the top of the bell housing cant see much clutch lockes tight when lever is enguaged and can move with my finger when released no broken parts that I can see.By the way my last post was about gear noise only in low range quite as a mouse on high side.Any thing else that I should check before the big split?? Thanks Paul.




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rebuilder

12-17-2003 18:54:55




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 Re: To rebuilder smta ta in reply to paul, 12-17-2003 17:49:04  
Paul: I done quite a bit of thinking on what might be the primary reason for your low side noise. I have to believe that since it only occurs when T.A. is engaged the problem is contained within the T.A. Perhaps somone else on the forum can back me up on this. My gut feeling right now is that a needle bearing is going out possibly inside the primary shaft(sun gear). I have never seen the two bearings in the carrier go out, just show some wear. Is the throwout bearing bad can you tell? The only other answer would be the ramp cams have become soo worn that they are grinding against the carrier when engaged. I have seen the needles seize inside the planetary gears but only rarely, and if you have taken good care of changing the oil and keeping the level up this should not be your problem.

SO- I guess I haven't helped you a whit in narrowwing down the problem without tearing the T.A. apart. Check the Throwout bearing while you have the top plate off although you may not be able to tell easliy if it is going out.

Also- before you split the tractor, try doing what Kelly C did and remove the belt pulley or the plate covering the belt pulley hole in the speed transmission tho get a look at any damage to the gears that may be there(see posts a couple of days ago)_.This may give you some more clues to your noise. Good luck and don't hesitate with more T.A. questions.!

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Kelly C

12-17-2003 20:43:51




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 Re: Re: To rebuilder smta ta in reply to rebuilder, 12-17-2003 18:54:55  
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Rebuilder. I have a question. As you can see I have the clutch housing removed. I was reading my IT manual for the removal of the TA. It has me removing the main clutch throw out carrier, All the shafts going in the front. The TA clutch ect. DO I have to do that just to remove the TA assembly from the rear?

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Never Mind I read the oth

12-17-2003 21:03:55




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 Re: Re: Re: To rebuilder smta ta in reply to Kelly C, 12-17-2003 20:43:51  
I should have click on the next one. You answered my question there.



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rebuilder

12-17-2003 19:06:42




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 Re: Re: To rebuilder smta ta in reply to rebuilder, 12-17-2003 18:54:55  
Pual: I forgot to give you some pointers on removing the T.A. if & when you do.
1)when you have the bellhousing off of the tranny remove parts in this order!!Bottom front-to-rear then Top front-to-rear.
--Remove pto gear & shaft on the bottom First!
--Remove the main clutch release shaft,Ipto shaft housing & Ipto shaft, then drive shaft.
--Remove the T.A. clutch release shaft & bearing then clutch, PPa,& flywheel.
-- The T.A. unit should be the last thing you remove from the bellhousing leaving it bare.
reassembly is in opposite order..

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