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Super M carburetor valve

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Tim Malin

12-17-2003 12:09:21




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There is a little brass valve in my carb that really gives me a headache. It is a triangle shape with a rubber/
synthetic tip that fits into a cylinder, activated by the float, which allows a certain amount of fuel into the bowl of the carb. It sticks, so it fills the bottom of the carb and overflows into air intake. If I shut the gas off when I shut the tractor off, no problems. I replaced it exactly a year ago, and that one went bad this summer, and then this summer, but that one has gone bad now. I am going to buy another one, but why am I having such problems with this part? I buy it from my Case IH dealer. Thank you.

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rebuilder

12-17-2003 13:06:18




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 Re: Super M carburetor valve in reply to Tim Malin, 12-17-2003 12:09:21  
Tim: I rebuild a lot of carburetors and this particular problem(gas leaking out of carb.) is my most frequent. I have no one answer as there are several things causing the leak
1) dirt in the needle valve causing to stick open. make sure fuel filter & inlet are squeaky clean.

2) Float dragging against carb. bowl. Take off carb. & Twist it in you hands in various positions. You should be able to hear or feel float moving on it's axle.

3) Float filled with fluid from leak. take off & shake float, even a very slight amount of fluid in float can keep it from working properly.

4) various other problems. I have actually had a beatiful looking carb inside & out leak gas & the only way I found the problem; I filled the carb. bowl with gas while I had it apart and found a tiny crack internally in the housing totally hidden from the naked eye.

5) usually the first thing I have a customer do though is to make sure needle valve is clean then try bending the float down a small amount. I have a gut feeling that the newer valves are somehow different than OEM causing these leaks either from imprecise manufacturing or poor materials. Nothing I can prove though. But most times bending the float down will cure the problem.
Good Luck!

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Tim Malin

12-19-2003 09:14:50




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 Re: Re: Super M carburetor valve in reply to rebuilder, 12-17-2003 13:06:18  
Thanks for the reply. I contacted my dealer and he told me they have been having some problems with their last group of needle valves, and that when I bring mine in (since I just put it on this summer) he will trade me up straight up, no cost. I figure I can at least do this, since it doesn't cost me, so I think that is what I will do. Hopefully this one will last much longer!!! Thanks again, and Happy Holidays!!!

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Bob M

12-17-2003 12:54:22




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 Re: Super M carburetor valve in reply to Tim Malin, 12-17-2003 12:09:21  
Tim - Ordinarily those viton tipped needle valves are very long lived. The one in my Super M has been in the carburetor since it was last rebuilt 25 or 30 years ago - it still seals perfectly.

When you replaced the needle did you also replace the brass seat? Could be there's a burr or something on the seat that's cutting the viton needle tip. Also are you by chance using a fuel additive or gasohol that's attacking and softening the tip?

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