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Cotton Picker Years

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Harold H

12-09-2003 05:01:30




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On 12/7 "Texas Tradition" asked the year model of his 114A cotton picker, which should be early 1960's. Since there is very little written information on IHC cotton pickers available, I thought I would give the introduction year of several cotton picker models from memory. Some may be a year or two off, especially later one rows, as very few new one row pickers were sold in the Delta after 1957. M-10 one row 1946, M-12 one row 1948, 114/120 one row 1954, 214/220 two row 1957, 114A/120A one row 1959, 214A/220A two row 1959, 314/320 one row 1962. 414/420 two row 1962, 416/422 two row 1965, 500/502 one row 1969, 616/622 two row 1969, 782 1978. To the best of my memory.

Harold H

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JohnG(TX)

12-09-2003 11:50:36




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 Re: Cotton Picker Years in reply to Harold H, 12-09-2003 05:01:30  
Harold,
On my grandparent's farm, there is an old 212 model two-row picker. Is there any way to find a serial number list to find the year it was made? The date code on the engine block is an N, which I believe is 1945. There is also the remains od a singe row bolt-on picker, with a weird PTO drive which bolts to where the belt pulley goes. I found a manual for an M-14/MD-14 on the farm, but my uncle says this junk pile came off one of his H farmall pickers. I really don't know what parts I have. I also found a different style H picker on a neighbor's farm which does not have a belt-wheel-type PTO drive. How many different types of bolt-on cotton pickers were made? Thanks for any info on these old beasts.

JG

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Harold H

12-09-2003 13:31:06




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 Re: Re: Cotton Picker Years in reply to JohnG(TX), 12-09-2003 11:50:36  
John,

If the two row is a picker rather than a stripper, it is a 214 low drum or 220 high drum from 57 or 58 or the A version of these from 59, 60, or 61. It should have a six cylinder either 220 or 240 engine. I don't know about your date code but the two row wasn't introduced untill 1957 so it can't be 1945. I don't know stripper models, if it is a stripper rather than a picker, as we never had strippers in the Mississippi Delta, only pickers. The M-14 was a low drum version of the M-12 high drum picker. It probably was introduced about 1950 or 51 and was replaced by the 114 low drum one row picker in about 54. When mounted on an H or M or later variations of these chassis, (SH, SM, 300, 400, 350, 450, 460, 560, etc) the drive gear box mounted where the belt pulley mounted. I'm not sure of the type drive on the later one row models mounted on tractor models not derived from the H/M as we never sold one and I have never actually seen a late model one row picker up close. The early low drums could also be mounted on a C or Super C, which used a different drive, but they were very underpowered and few were sold. I don't know of a source for cotton picker serial numbers. The one row models are M-10 high drum, M-12 high drum, M-14 low drum, 114 low drum, 120 high drum, 114A low drum, 120A high drum, 314 low drum, 320 high drum, 500 low drum, and 502 high drum. There may be a couple more I left out, but as I stated, in new pickers, we sold only two row pickers after the 214/220 came out in 1957. When we were selling new one rows, 95 % of them in the Mississippi Delta were high drums (M-10, M-12, and 120). If you look in the header and count spindles, if there are 14 spindles on each bar it is a low drum. If there are 20 spindles on each bar it is a high drum. Hope this information helps.

Harold H

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Please excuse the ramblin

12-09-2003 13:02:37




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 Re: Re: Cotton Picker Years in reply to JohnG(TX), 12-09-2003 11:50:36  
I have bill of sale fpr 114A that my Dad bought new in 1960. Cost $7000 mounted on used 400 tractor. The drive that bolted on in place of belt pulley was a real pain. There was a 90 degree gear drive that drove a chain and sprocket set which drove the belt drive. Replacing the chain (not uncommon job) out in field on cold late November day could make a country boy want to move to town. The ninty degree drive went out fairly frequently but we never attemted to repair them in field. There were at least 3 types of one row pickers after they were in common use in our area major differences were in fan system and drive mechanism picking heads were not all that different. In fact last new picker head I looked at 8 to 10 years ago was very similar to first commercial IH pickers. The 114A Dad bought in 1960 would pick as well or better than the 5 and 6 rows I see running all around me now.

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Harold H

12-09-2003 13:41:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Cotton Picker Years in reply to Please excuse the ramblin, 12-09-2003 13:02:37  
John,

Basicly IHC offered two fan systems. A single fan mounted low on the right side of the platform or dual fans which mounted high right behind the platform. This is the reason for the different fan drive systems. These pickers will pick as clean or cleaner than a modern picker. Only less power and capacity. The new Deere pickers only pick one side of the row and the new Case/IH have less bars per head and not as many spindles as the older IHC high drum pickers.

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Texas Tradition

12-09-2003 18:14:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Cotton Picker Years in reply to Harold H, 12-09-2003 13:41:22  
I want to thank everybody for their input on the picker. I bought the Farmall H and picker from an estate sale near Victoria Tx. It didn't bring what they thought it was worth at the auction, so i bought it later. Didn't want to see it go to the junk yard. Was always shedded before I bought it. Was really hoping to sell it to a collector. Have removed the hopper so it can be hauled legally. I really think the 51 H is a low hour tractor that the picker is mounted on. I believe i have it priced more than reasonable for the condition it is in. If anyone is serious about it, e-mail me. Thanks Texas Tradition

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JohnG(TX)

12-09-2003 11:48:11




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 Re: Cotton Picker Years in reply to Harold H, 12-09-2003 05:01:30  
Harold,
On my grandparent's farm, there is an old 212 model two-row picker. Is there any way to find a serial number list to find the year it was made? The date code on the engine block is an N, which I believe is 1945. There is also the remains od a singe row bolt-on picker, with a weird PTO drive which bolts to where the belt pulley goes. I found a manual for an M-14/MD-14 on the farm, but my uncle says this junk pile came off one of his H farmall pickers. I really don't know what parts I have. I also found a different style H picker on a neighbor's farm which does not have a belt-wheel-type PTO drive. How many different types of bolt-on cotton pickers were made? Thanks for any info on these old beasts.

JG

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