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Ray

11-19-2003 19:18:52




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Does anyone know the proper name of those pesky beetles that bite and stink when you squash them that are in the states of Ohio and Pennsylvania. They look alot like a lady bug but are not. I think the Ag dept . brought them in to protect corn and soy bean crops from other insects. Hope someone can be helpful and Thanks in advance.

Ray in Pa.




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zooeyhall

11-20-2003 21:00:55




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 Re: beetles in reply to Ray, 11-19-2003 19:18:52  
We got a mess of them in NE Nebraska too. They were especially bad this fall after soybeans were out and when the weather was warm.

They are Asian lady-bugs. They are supposed to be from Japan.

It's maybe a revenge of the Japanese for WWII(?)

First they hit us with their Toyotas, and now this.

Tojo's REVENGE!

I am sure that they were imported by some politically correct do-gooder.



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Michael Soldan

11-20-2003 16:42:25




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 Re: beetles in reply to Ray, 11-19-2003 19:18:52  
We first saw trhese bugs in southern Ontario after an influx of bean aphids that were causing problems with soy beans, as I understand it these beetles fed on aphids so the more aphids we had the more beetles showed up...I suspect they have been doing some good...yes they are a nuisance..I was painting the farm house and had to give up because in the warm fall days they all came out onto the side of the house to enjoy the sun and painting was impossible.Mike in Exeter Ontario

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Jim in michigan

11-20-2003 15:20:47




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 Re: beetles in reply to Ray, 11-19-2003 19:18:52  
Asian beetles is what the DNR here calls them,, there is one of the nasty lil buggers on my monitor right now,,,Jim



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rjj

11-20-2003 15:03:29




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 Re: beetles in reply to Ray, 11-19-2003 19:18:52  
They came from London in the 60's didn't they.



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Bill B

11-20-2003 17:16:03




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 Re: Re: beetles in reply to rjj, 11-20-2003 15:03:29  
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeaaaaa ah!



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MikeH-Tx, no no no

11-20-2003 17:34:02




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 Re: Re: Re: beetles in reply to Bill B, 11-20-2003 17:16:03  
It was Liverpool.



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Hugh MacKay

11-20-2003 12:00:14




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 Re: beetles in reply to Ray, 11-19-2003 19:18:52  
Come on guys they are just a harmless little beetle, scientifically they are doing some good. They will not sting you like a hornet, wasp or bee. They will not transmit diseases like west nile, etc. They don't pollute the air unnecessarily like one person driving 50 miles to work in a SUV. They even look good as far as being useful along side most politicians.

I live in Ontario, and got up early one morning last week heading for Detroit. Not wanting to disturb the rest of the household I got dressed in very low light. Just as I was approaching the US Customs booth one of these little critters started moving around in my underwear. Customs officer asked if I had anything to declare. I was tempted to say yes, but really didn't think he would be amused by a beetle in my underwear. I did finally get rid of this little critter in a wash room in Detroit. So you guys south of the border have one Canadian beetle that didn't clear customs.

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rhouston

11-20-2003 13:23:08




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 Re: Re: beetles in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-20-2003 12:00:14  
all you say may be true.

tens of thousands of them entering your home and living with you all winter is no fun. If they die within your walls cockroches will invade to eat the carcass. They are a fire hazard as they tend to collect in light sockets/shades and die. They are also a non-native species that will puch out out native lady bugs. They are Asian lady beetles brought here courtesy of the U.S. government.


I say "shoot at will"
and that guy over there is "will"

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wvhogleg

11-20-2003 10:45:10




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 Re: beetles in reply to Ray, 11-19-2003 19:18:52  
yes...here in wv they are awful. especially when they get in the house and into a halogen lamp and burn up.

if any of you all are interested, i have, courtosy of the usda, plans to build your own ladybug (or flying insect) trap for your home. it is in a pdf document and details the instructions and all the parts on how to put it together. i have yet tried to tackle it, but im coming down to my wits end with these things in the house. i will attach the link to the usda's web site to this email.

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Mitchell Pool

11-20-2003 08:45:01




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 Re: beetles in reply to Ray, 11-19-2003 19:18:52  
They are called mexican stink beetles, we have then here in Ontario to. canada



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Ben in KY

11-20-2003 07:37:14




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 Re: beetles in reply to Ray, 11-19-2003 19:18:52  
One way to get rid of them would be to start a rumor that the beetles are used in illegal drug production. The gummit would spend billions getting rid of them then.
We have a lot of them in KY too, I hope DC is covered up as well. Send them back to Japan with the Cudsue (sp?) and other stuff our brilliant gummit has imported.



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Larry B.

11-20-2003 05:54:44




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 Re: beetles in reply to Ray, 11-19-2003 19:18:52  
There here in southern tip of Illinois also, all over you and don't know how to keep them out of the house.



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Paul in Mich

11-20-2003 05:42:12




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 Re: beetles in reply to Ray, 11-19-2003 19:18:52  
I think there were places that if we could have harvested the bugs instead of the soy beans here in Mid Mich, we would have fared better. Yes, we have them by the bushels also. Just yesterday I looked in my pump house, and found it to be winter quarters for a zillion of the little darlin's. I believe the rationale was that they were harmless aphids that fed on other more destructive aphids. They don't bother me too much, except for the fact that every time the missus sees one in the house she thinks I'm supposed to get up and get rid of it. It makes it very hard to get much of a nap in the chair at night.

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Ty

11-20-2003 04:54:39




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 Re: beetles in reply to Ray, 11-19-2003 19:18:52  
#*$#(&*$#(&*$(#&*$(#*$&(#*$%(&*#$(#&**(#&$(&*#$*(@#($&*@(*#&(@&*$^*(#&$^*(&(&*( BUGS!!! Piles of dead ones. Pain in my butt!



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tractorhead

11-20-2003 05:33:14




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 Re: Re: beetles in reply to Ty, 11-20-2003 04:54:39  
they are asian beatles,the japanese are the green looking ones that come out about the 4 of july.nothing will eat them because they taste bad and stink.I understand the AGG. dept is attempting to alter there genetics to make them really goood tasting,hopefuly in a few years they will be down to tolerable levels.



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brent

11-20-2003 03:36:53




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 Re: beetles in reply to Ray, 11-19-2003 19:18:52  
You are all right in some respects, they are an Asian Bettle, introduced into the north central U.S. in 1993. Originaly they were to be a substitute feed for the wild turkeys in the ohio and PA area. The original study concluded that these insects were slow to breed, thus control would be good, however, the migration and hibernation of these insects was overlooked. Hence the overpopulation. As with most bettles the aphid aspect is just a bonus. Ohio Division of Natural Resources

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Clint

11-20-2003 05:19:06




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 Re: Re: beetles in reply to brent, 11-20-2003 03:36:53  
You're right about the over population. We have tons of them up here in northern Michgan!



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Hugh MacKay

11-20-2003 03:11:20




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 Re: beetles in reply to Ray, 11-19-2003 19:18:52  
Ray: Your beetles are indeed a strain of lady bug. The reason they start to bother you in late fall is as the soybeans are ripened, frosted or harvested they run out of food, being the aphids on the soybeans. Are they winning the war against aphids on soybeans? Who knows for sure at this point. Ask yourself what would be the effects on your lifestyle if enough chemical was applied to soybeans across North America, to do the job?

Remember when farmers tried to chase down atrazine resistent weeds with atrazine.

I remember an old dairy farmer in my home town, dairy barn inspectors were always after him about two items; spiders and their cobwebs in his tie stall barn and not having a screen door on his milk room. His argument was that every time he entered or exited the milk room the screen door would have to be opened. Further because of his spiders and their webs he had away less flies than most farms. I've been there and there were never flies in his milk room.

Just may be if we re think this whole corn to beans to wheat rotation and the real cost, they may not be so profitable. There might be a better way, with more crops in that rotation. When 50% of this land was in grassland, our rivers weren't brown with silt. You could see the river bed and even count the fish.

Hasen't progress been wonderful.

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Dan in Ore

11-20-2003 03:00:25




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 Re: beetles in reply to Ray, 11-19-2003 19:18:52  
Same thing here. Many years ago the powers that be imported an insect called "midgees". They were supposed to feed on mosquito larvae and end the spraying by the local vector control district.

Guess what? We still have the mosquitos, the vector control district still sprays and the midgees are here by the billions. Guess it didn't work (imagine that, a government program that failed).

The midgee doesn't bite, but they are horrible as far as inhaling them, getting all over things and splattering on your windshield whenever you drive near a body of water at night. A lot of people avoid traveling around the lake at night if at all possible.

Another case of the bureaucrats knowing what is best for you and me. Can you say "BIG BROTHER".

Dan

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Gary_N_WV

11-20-2003 02:21:45




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 Re: beetles in reply to Ray, 11-19-2003 19:18:52  
Add West Virginia to the list of states plagued with these beatles.



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Michael

11-19-2003 22:29:11




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 Re: beetles in reply to Ray, 11-19-2003 19:18:52  
Here in NE Iowa they were everywhere. Especially pesky last month. Have heard them called Japanese Beetles.

Wouldn't mind them if they'd just leave me alone and stay out of the farmhouse!



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yooper

11-19-2003 20:12:48




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 Re: beetles in reply to Ray, 11-19-2003 19:18:52  
I don,t know the official name but in the UP of michigan we call them!@#@#!@$%&***%$$# japanese beetles, and they get into everything. I also heard that the DNR brought them into control the gypsy moth. If you have a shortage down in PA, let me know and we would be happy to send you a couple truck loads of either.



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ken

11-19-2003 20:08:54




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 Re: beetles in reply to Ray, 11-19-2003 19:18:52  
i believe they are called asian beetles and the last 3 or 4 years they have been getting worse.some of these overeducated s#&theads that think hey this will cure this problem ta daa don't think about the consequences now we'll have to import some asian wasp or who knows what else to kill these stupid things.



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hal

11-20-2003 04:02:08




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 Re: Re: beetles in reply to ken, 11-19-2003 20:08:54  
they need to stump hang these over educated people [idiots]



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Will Sick

11-19-2003 21:03:51




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 Re: Re: beetles in reply to ken, 11-19-2003 20:08:54  
The asian beetles feed on aphids and it seems they have had plenty of aphids to feed on. Maybe they helped us some this year. When it is dry the aphids thrive and hurt the crops more beause they are under stress. Quite a few bean fields lost yield because of aphids. Some fields were sprayed.



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