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Bob

11-17-2003 19:47:11




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In a post I think someone said they start their tractor with a rope? Around the pulley? They thought it was safer. Can anyone help? Thanks Bob




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Ken C

11-18-2003 04:07:31




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 Re: Starting with a Rope in reply to Bob, 11-17-2003 19:47:11  
There is a fellow with a B Farmall that starts it with a rope wrapped around the rear belt pulley. Sometimes I think he deliberately stalls the engine to show off. I wonder how safe it is if the rope would stay wrapped on the pulley. When I was a young fellow I used to start our F-12 with the pulley by hand like you would a John Deere only it turns the other way. Ours had a overdrive unit on it and I would sometimes put it in high range and standing on the platform would turn the pulley with my right foot and start it. P.S. this tractor usually started very easy.

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old

11-17-2003 20:17:55




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 Re: Starting with a Rope in reply to Bob, 11-17-2003 19:47:11  
I don't know how its done for sure but I have an idea how to do it, so just take this with that in mind. You would have to make a thing like to old lawn mower engines had to hold the rope, then rap the rope around the pully for the large belt and pull hard.
Hope this helps a little



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sn001

11-17-2003 20:34:59




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 Re: Re: Starting with a Rope in reply to old, 11-17-2003 20:17:55  
I posted about starting my f-12 with a rope. After the crank flew off and hit me in the head I thought there must be a better way! So I went to the hardware store and bought a 14" dia pully for $25.00. I then bolted a plate on to it that I had welded a sleave to. The sleave has two slots for the cranking stud and slips on where the crank goes. I made a small cut in the pully for the rope. I am able to get about 1 1/2 wraps around the pully. I have been using this setup for some time now, works great, much safer. I you have any other questions please feel free to email me.

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Mitchell Pool

11-19-2003 13:33:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Starting with a Rope in reply to sn001, 11-17-2003 20:34:59  
Can you send me a picture if you have one?

Mitch



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sn001

11-24-2003 20:28:58




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Starting with a Rope in reply to Mitchell Pool, 11-19-2003 13:33:40  
third party image

Mitchell, sorry it took so long to get these posted. It isn't fancy, but it sure works good.



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sn001

11-19-2003 18:35:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Starting with a Rope in reply to Mitchell Pool, 11-19-2003 13:33:40  
Hey Mitch I'd love to send you a pic. But presently I don't have one. I'll try to get it together by this weekend. I'll see what I can do.



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ljw

11-18-2003 04:14:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Starting with a Rope in reply to sn001, 11-17-2003 20:34:59  
Sounds interesting. It's probably obvious, but make certain the rope is not wrapped around your hand when you're pulling. My 2 cents.



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Dick Davis

11-18-2003 03:11:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Starting with a Rope in reply to sn001, 11-17-2003 20:34:59  
sn001, great idea! Send it to Farm Show magazine, lots of old crankers read it there. Dick Davis



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jim stuart

11-22-2003 21:19:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Starting with a Rope in reply to Dick Davis, 11-18-2003 03:11:33  
My dad bought a loader for our bn about 1955, making the crank spot inaccessable, so he began starting it with a rope wrapped around the belt pulley. Seems to me I saw him start it by hand once when the rope was missing. I use the rope now, cause the starter drive sticks when the fly wheel spits it out when the motor starts and I have to take the starter off and unstick the starter drive. Maybe I was the "show off" that Ken C talked about in his post; I deliberately stall my bn at the local tractor pull in scottville mi--the crowd gets a kick out of the rope start. to do this safely you have to have a rope that will circle the belt pulley about four times counter clockwise. On the first wrap, lay the rope over its end so it doesn't slip, then continue winding it up until you are out of rope. no Knot on the end of the rope that you don't pull on; have a knot on the end that you pull on. When you are ready to pull, the pulling end should be on top the pulley, maybe sticking out toward you an inch or so. Grasp rope with both hands, put foot on drawbar and pull as hard as possible while making karate sound, "HuH!" When tractor starts, the belt pulley will spin the rope off. I have done this hundreds of times over the last twenty years or so, as did my father before me with no mishaps. Of course I'm only speaking for the farmall bn, but it looks like it would work with any similar tractor with a belt pulley on the back. seems like I saw an allis or moline it could work on. I rebuilt that motor a couple years ago, which really increased the strength needed to rope start it and it's almost impossible to do below twenty degrees unless I lose my temper.

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