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can a pto be added to an international 350 utility

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tim adler

11-01-2003 16:10:22




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I have an international 350 utility tractor that does not have a pto. Is is it possible to add a pto from a parts tractor? How difficult would the conversion be?




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Red Rider

11-01-2003 18:50:36




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 Re: can a pto be added to an international 350 uti in reply to tim adler, 11-01-2003 16:10:22  
Tim It could be a relatively easy installation without spliting the tractor if the tractor came with a PTO and someone just removed the external part of the PTO. If the tractor did not come with a PTO then it will be a little more extensive. There were types of PTO available for your tractor. Transmission driven and the independent live type driven off the pressure plate. Most likely if a tractor was not ordered with the IPTO the torque Amplifier drive shaft did not come with the integral PTO gear. The IPTO tractors came with a two piece drive shaft from the engine. The input shaft to the TA and transmission was in side the drive shaft that ran the IPTO. The IPTO drive shaft was splined to the pressure plate to get the live pto. Anyway pull off the inspection plate on top of the housing between the engine and the transmission. If the first compartment has a gear in there It has the live pto and just the external PTO parts were removed.

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tim adler

11-01-2003 19:48:32




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 Re: Re: can a pto be added to an international 350 in reply to Red Rider, 11-01-2003 18:50:36  
thanks for the reply. It was quite informative. Does the gear that I will be looking for under the inspection plate indicate independent pto or transmission driven pto?



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dick

11-03-2003 08:41:30




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 Re: Re: Re: can a pto be added to an international in reply to tim adler, 11-01-2003 19:48:32  
Adding a PTO to the 300U or 350U has been a pretty frequent topic which I don't think has a proven anwer yet. The best guess(es) so far:

If it has a TA, it "probably" is set up for PTO, and which variety can "probably" be determined by the suffix on the serial number - "S" indicates gearing for IPTO, "R" indicates gearing for a transmission-driven PTO.

A "P" suffix is supposed to indicate IPTO gearing for tractors without a TA.

About the only way you're going to know for sure is to drain the transmission, take the cover plate off, and see if the gearing is actually present. Assuming it is, I "think" you can determine which variety you have by checking with the engine off: if the gearing turns freely with the clutch depressed, but doesn't when the pedal is out, it's transmission-driven; if it never turns freely regardless of the clutch position, it's geared for IPTO.

Good luck, and please post what you find out - this is still a vague area.

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tim adler

11-03-2003 16:24:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: can a pto be added to an internati in reply to dick, 11-03-2003 08:41:30  
Dick, thanks for the info. The serial # is "4581...S" and it does have TA. The cover plate that you refer to, is it the plate that covers where the pto would exit the rear of the tractor? Is there be a known source for an IPTO unit other than a parts tractor? Also, if it does have IPTO would the TA have to function properly for the IPTO to work??



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dick

11-03-2003 19:12:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: can a pto be added to an inter in reply to tim adler, 11-03-2003 16:24:20  
Yes, I was talking about the cover plate where the IPTO goes.

Parts tractor/salvage dealer is the only source I know about at this point.

The IPTO hooks into the driveline before the TA, so it should be independent (if all the parts are there) regardless of how well the TA is working. If you're having TA problems, first thing to do is to adjust the clutches exactly as the manual describes - you may get really lucky and find that's all that's wrong.

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