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karl f

10-09-2003 18:31:19




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when i finally get the overhaul on the 656 gas completed, how do i go about the break in process?
do i need special oil or will regularly used oil work? what weight should be used for this critical period? etc..

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karl




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Heath

10-10-2003 19:09:00




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 Re: break-in oil? in reply to karl f, 10-09-2003 18:31:19  
A lot of IH dealers drained the factory oil and replaced it with non detergent oil for the first 100 hours. 10W in winter and 30W in summer. I think the John Deere breakin oil is good also but it is expensive. Hope this helps.



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Jack

10-10-2003 13:49:26




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 Re: break-in oil? in reply to karl f, 10-09-2003 18:31:19  
Deere (I know!) has an excellent break-in oil that can be bought in quarts or gallons. (It's actually called 'break-in' oil & they recommend it for virtually all engine overhauls) I have used it in the last few rebuilds I've done with excellent success - oil smoke & consumption issues are non-existant. At all costs, I'd stay away from diesel oil, as the formulation for high temp & pressure does not allow enough friction to seat rings well. Learned that lesson with a 'M' four years ago - took forever to run itself in quit using oil.

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Doug in OR

10-10-2003 08:13:33




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 Re: break-in oil? in reply to karl f, 10-09-2003 18:31:19  
Back in the 60's, car makers used a "break in" oil. This was nothing more than a thinner oil than the usual spec. They don't do this any more. I suspect their reasoning was that an engine that wasn't broken in yet had some places where the parts were fitting tightly, and they needed a thinner oil to penetrate these places.

I would suggest that you use your regular oil, but change it twice as often for the first couple of oil changes.

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TIM

10-10-2003 06:16:54




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 Re: break-in oil? in reply to karl f, 10-09-2003 18:31:19  
I agree with what Will said,break it in with whatever you plan on using,change it after an hour or two of run time,i go one step further and change it again after maybe 6 or 8 hours of run time,this should get rid of all the little particles,then put it on your regular oil change schedule..
Tim



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riverrat

10-09-2003 22:27:59




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 Re: break-in oil? in reply to karl f, 10-09-2003 18:31:19  
Break it in on whatever oil you plan on running in it. It all depends on what climate you live in. 10W-30 up north, 15W-40 down south, etc. Lots of personal preferences here, also. Basically, if it's slippery it's good!



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casey

10-11-2003 07:50:26




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 Re: Re: break-in oil? in reply to riverrat, 10-09-2003 22:27:59  
i've been told by numerous folks that you should never run multi-grade oils in tractors. you will wipe out bearings fast! my fellow employee was a case/ih mechanic for 20 plus years and he says never ever run multigrade. 30w in summer, 10w in winter and make sure it's low ash.



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Will Sick

10-09-2003 21:01:28




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 Re: break-in oil? in reply to karl f, 10-09-2003 18:31:19  
Put in some 10-30 and run it a couple of hours and then change the oil and filter again. It should be good then for your regular oil chage schedule.



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Buzzman72

10-11-2003 07:12:42




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 Re: Re: break-in oil? in reply to Will Sick, 10-09-2003 21:01:28  
My dad and grand-dad ran a car/truck/tractor dealership and garage (Hudson/International/Farmall) from the 1940's until the early 1990's, and they always used nondetergent oil for break-in. As someone else has posted, detergent oil suspends the small metal particles and actually PREVENTS rings from wearing in (or "seating," as the old-tmers called it) as quickly as non-detergent oil. On a car, then, then first oil change was done at 500 miles. If you were going to run a detergent oil, this is when you switched to it. The next change was done at 1000 miles, to further purge particles from the engine. After that, resume your normal oil change interval. How that schedule relates to tractors, I'm not quite sure--I wasn't such a tractor fan growing up, so I didn't pay attention then--but I think the folks here can steer you right, within these parameters.

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