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McCormick trip bucket loader for farmall M

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Michael

10-02-2003 21:33:33




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I'm looking at an IH trip bucket loader for my farmall M. Are these thing even worth messing with? I don't have a loader now.

Any helpful tips when using one of these things?

What grade bolts are required to mount it safely to the tractor?




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Roger

10-04-2003 18:16:32




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 Re: McCormick trip bucket loader for farmall M in reply to Michael, 10-02-2003 21:33:33  
I now have two model McCormick 31 loaders. The neighbor had an H for sale with the 31 loader and it was such a good deal I couldn't pass it up. The one I have had for years I use mostly for plowing snow. I made a blade for it and have it mounted on my Super H. When I use it for manure or dirt the bucket is about the right size for those tractors. The trip bucket is kind of tricky when loading manure in the spreader. You can take a real gouge out of the side of the spreader if you aren't careful. I also discovered they aren't made for dumping into a garden tractor trailer. I was getting manure from a neighbor and she wanted me to dump a load in her trailer. I loaded up the bucket with a load of packed horse manure that they had been walking on all winter. When I dumped the bucket it flattened the trailer like stepping on a bug. We decided that wasn't a good way to load her trailer as we were bending it back into shape. Roger

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casered

10-03-2003 20:27:21




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 Re: McCormick trip bucket loader for farmall M in reply to Michael, 10-02-2003 21:33:33  
Trip bucket loaders are definately still handy tools to have. I would suggest if you are getting an IH brand for your M that you get a #30 or 31 power loader and stay away from the 33A loader. We have a 33A sitting in the scrap pile from using it on our M. The pipe bar design of this loader is just not beefy enough to handle the power of an M. We had no trouble using this loader on our H, in fact it was on it for close to 20 years, but on the M it couldnt handle the extra power and would twist when you pushed into a pile of snow. The only nice thing that we liked about our 33a was how fast we could mount it, about twenty minutes start to finish. The #30 and 31 loader are by comparison much beefier. The channel iron frame extending to the axle is heavy enough to move anything the tractor can handle. We have a 31 mounted to our H, in fact I used it today to move dirt that washed in our drive from some recent storms. We picked ours up for $125.00 with the slip pan for the bucket. We also plow with this loader in the winter with a regular IH blade that bolts to the loader after you take off the bucket, it will move anything we ask of it with ease. We picked up the blade for 200.00, if you can find one they are worth the investment. It is a little more clumsy than the 33A but I think it will last alot longer doing the same heavy work. Good luck and have a good day.

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Michael

10-03-2003 09:59:15




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 Re: McCormick trip bucket loader for farmall M in reply to Michael, 10-02-2003 21:33:33  
Thanks for all of your help!



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rustyfarmall

10-03-2003 05:43:09




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 Re: McCormick trip bucket loader for farmall M in reply to Michael, 10-02-2003 21:33:33  
I have a #31 McCormick on my H,these will also fit the M, not as handy as a full hydraulic loader, but they are tougher than nails.
One trick I have learned, it can sometimes be difficult to trip the bucket if it is loaded heavy, just lower the loader to the ground, pull the lever, and then raise the loader, much easier to control exactly where that load is dumped, and fewer surprises.



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Delbert

10-03-2003 05:56:18




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 Re: Re: McCormick trip bucket loader for farmall M in reply to rustyfarmall, 10-03-2003 05:43:09  
I to have a 31 loader on a m they are a good loader for there age. I use mine to haul rock on my driveway can dump rock and spread with bucket maybe better than with a blade. With a little pactice they do a great job. Also if the cylinders get to leaking oil i put a bottle of engine stop leak in the pump this helps cut down on oil consuption. Oh yea when spreadindg rock or dirt just just drive forward over pile let bucket down and back up will level out just fine.

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rustyfarmall

10-03-2003 14:41:40




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 Re: Re: Re: McCormick trip bucket loader for farma in reply to Delbert, 10-03-2003 05:56:18  
I've been doing it that way for years, I think it works even better than a 3 point mounted blade, much easier to control.
Might have to try that engine oil stop leak trick.



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Delbert

10-03-2003 16:55:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: McCormick trip bucket loader for f in reply to rustyfarmall, 10-03-2003 14:41:40  
Don,t remember what brand i used most likely $2.00 to $3.00 stuff. But the cylinders went from pouring out a stream the size of a lead pencil to nothing. Think that must have done it. If they start leeking i just add another bottle. I used the old loader today moved a bunch of crushed rock didn,t leak a drop. The loader lifted all i could get on it. I might add that if you guy,s put these old loaders on a h make sure you have lots of weight on back. And don,t raise loader more than about radiator high if it is loaded because they will tip over on level ground and boy it sure messes up your muffler, steering wheel.

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Mark in M.

10-03-2003 05:11:23




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 Re: McCormick trip bucket loader for farmall M in reply to Michael, 10-02-2003 21:33:33  
I put a New Idea trip bucket on my Farmall M. It was well worth it. I put a snow blade on it in the winter. Made my own brackets to fit my tractor. It is more difficult to steer but when you get it rolling you can turn with less muscle. I paid $100.00 for mine.

My 2 cents

Mark



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riverrat

10-02-2003 22:26:57




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 Re: McCormick trip bucket loader for farmall M in reply to Michael, 10-02-2003 21:33:33  
I found a 33-A McCormick loader for my 42 H. It's the trip bucket, big one - 7 ft. It was well worth the investment. The amount of work these things save your back is great! Just takes a little getting used to the hydraulics only working when the clutch is out, which is a little funny after many years of farming with tractors with live hyd. The trip bucket: Well, let's just say to make sure you have your load exactly where you need it to be, because it dumps all at once and pretty violently sometimes. I paid $395 for the the entire thing. With just surface rust. You can still read the original decals! I used grade 5 bolts to mount the frame to the rear axles and grade 8 to mount the struts to the front of the tractor. Originally had grade 5 on the front, but snapped one clean off. No problems on the back, though. Good investment. Don't know how it would be with a narrow front, though. I was lucky enough to find my H with the wide front.
Good luck!

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dick Davis

10-03-2003 03:07:54




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 Re: Re: McCormick trip bucket loader for farmall M in reply to riverrat, 10-02-2003 22:26:57  
riverrat did a great job in his answer. I would add power steering is nice if you use the bucket at close to capacity. And on a safety note always keep the load as low as possible when maneuvering the tractor because the center of gravity gets too high real quick when you have a load in the air. BTDT Dick Davis



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dhermesc

10-03-2003 07:09:54




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 Re: Re: Re: McCormick trip bucket loader for farma in reply to dick Davis, 10-03-2003 03:07:54  
I agree with riverrat also, a trip bucket loader is fine for most applications. Like he said though, make sure you have the load where you want it when you dump. The other thing to consider is the limited hydraulics on an older tractor such as this, a hydraulic bucket ties up one more outlet you may not have. As pointed out above trip bucket loaders tends to go extremely cheap as everyone thinks they have to have a hydraulic bucket. We have even used a trip bucket to load big round bales on a truck, takes a little pactice to get it right.

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