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Farmall 706 wont turn over, was fine.

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Matt

09-07-2003 19:18:30




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I just got a farmall 706 trucked into my yard that I was told ran fine. I turned the key, pushed the clutch in neutral, and put the lever up by the right-side of the steering wheel into "N" (the lever had H-L-N-R marked on it). Nothing happened. So I noticed a parking brake of some sort by my foot so I lifted that straight up and tried again, with no luck. I then charged the 12v battery, cleaned the terminals, cleaned the ground and the connection to the starter too and tried pushing the button again. Nothing happened. No clicks no attempts at starting what-so-ever. I noticed that when I first turn the key on, the amp light comes on solid. Then, after pushing the starter button, it blinks. Not sure if this has any connection. Not sure what to try next... Any ideas are welcome. Thank you.

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ryan

09-08-2003 07:56:02




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 Re: Farmall 706 wont turn over, was fine. in reply to Matt, 09-07-2003 19:18:30  
have you checked the wires on the clutch safety switch our 806 wouldn't turn over one day wiggled them wires and it fired right up



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Matt

09-08-2003 21:17:23




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 Re: Re: Farmall 706 wont turn over, was fine. in reply to ryan, 09-08-2003 07:56:02  
I'm not sure what the safety switch looks like or how to tell which wires feed into it. Where would it be located? Is it near the clutch?

Thanks again,
Matt



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Jimmy King

09-09-2003 04:00:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Farmall 706 wont turn over, was fine. in reply to Matt, 09-08-2003 21:17:23  
under the platform on left side right behind the clutch unplug the wires loop the plug with a wire and try it if it works switch is your problem



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Matt

09-09-2003 19:35:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Farmall 706 wont turn over, was fi in reply to Jimmy King, 09-09-2003 04:00:17  
I found the switch behind the clutch, it was unplugged and didn't look like it had been plugged into anything in years the two tongs on the switch were rusted. I saw a few loose wires dangling. It looked like one of the orange wires had been spliced together. A couple other wires went to the back of the tractor...

By the way, there is a big black lever down below the dash in the center (near my legs). I can either raise it up or push it down. I think it has something to do with parking, but don't know if it matters if its up or down.

I thought I came close today to getting it started. I saw a spark down near the starter somewhere and breifly heard the starter engage for a split second. Not sure what I did differently to cause it. I checked the solinoid and there didn't appear to be any loose or frayed or crossed wires. I just put in new battery cables today too. I even tried crossing the solinoid with a screwdriver, I saw lots of sparks, but nothing else happened.

Its a mystery to me. Thanks again for your help.

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Jimmy King

09-10-2003 04:22:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Farmall 706 wont turn over, wa in reply to Matt, 09-09-2003 19:35:53  
Sounds like your problem is in your starter or selinoid the lever is parking lockdon't trust it when it is down it is suppose to lock trans. but when worn or out of adj. will ratchet on a hill, good thing about it when it is down you can not put it in gear.



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Jimmy King

09-07-2003 20:21:50




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 Re: Farmall 706 wont turn over, was fine. in reply to Matt, 09-07-2003 19:18:30  
Are you pushing in the clutch some of them still are hooked up to the safety switch. If you are I would start with the starter button short across the terminals on the back of the button assembly. Please make sure it is in netural That is the reason for the clutch safety switch. I know a man that was permanently crippled when he shorted across the selnoid and a 4020 and disc harrow ran over him. Saftey switch can be bad also. If it is not the things I have listed not likley but could be key switch. then you are to starter or battery.

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Jimmy King

09-07-2003 20:25:06




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 Re: Re: Farmall 706 wont turn over, was fine. in reply to Jimmy King, 09-07-2003 20:21:50  
Well duh you said you pushed the clutch down.



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Grant

09-08-2003 06:00:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Farmall 706 wont turn over, was fine. in reply to Jimmy King , 09-07-2003 20:25:06  
Isn't there an old saying that goes, "If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all?" That was a very cold response.



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Grant

09-08-2003 06:05:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Farmall 706 wont turn over, was fi in reply to Grant, 09-08-2003 06:00:13  
Oops, my appologies. I thought at first that the "Duh" comment was regarding the posted question. After looking at it again, I guess you were just saying "Duh" in response to your previous post. Sorry. I guess the "Duh" is on me this time! Good answer by the way, I think you might have the right answer. If the safety switch isn't activated, it won't start.



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Brian in MO

09-07-2003 20:06:56




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 Re: Farmall 706 wont turn over, was fine. in reply to Matt, 09-07-2003 19:18:30  
Check the cable connection at the batteries especially the one right before the starter. My 1256 does the same thing about 2-3 times a year clean the terminals and everythings is normal again. Good luck Brian.



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Gordon/Ia

09-07-2003 21:39:17




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 Re: Re: Farmall 706 wont turn over, was fine. in reply to Brian in MO, 09-07-2003 20:06:56  
When we first got our 856 it did the same thing. After a lot of checking with a test light, we found a bad wire going to the light switch which would ground out the ignition switch in the start position. It took a lot of looking to find, but was easy to fix. Don't know if a similar thing could be causing your problem, but the wiring on these tractors is getting a little old and can cause problems.

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