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450 PTO shaft from engine driving clutch

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Bob K

08-27-2003 12:42:18




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With the tractor in neutral and clutch disengaged, the shaft from the engine to the live PTO keeps the driven clutch disk spinning which prevents me from putting it in gear without grinding. (I have to kill the engine and restart it in gear to get moving again -- not safe.) I've also had it push the tractor while in gear after disengaging the clutch. Once, it was so locked up, I nearly killed the tractor using the brakes to try and break the PTO shaft loose from the clutch. If I use it often and never move the tractor without it in gear, I can work around it.

Last night, I finally split the tractor and pulled the splined PTO shaft, but it didn't look like it was rusted/gummed up enough to drag that much on the clutch. Has anyone had this problem? Will cleaning the shaft and tube it passes through solve the problem? My wife won't drive it until I fix it. Thanks.

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Bob K - thanks

08-28-2003 09:36:07




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 Re: 450 PTO shaft from engine driving clutch in reply to Bob K, 08-27-2003 12:42:18  
I'll check out the pilot bearing and clutch while I'm in the mess and see what kind of shape they're in. Thanks for the info.



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JB

08-27-2003 17:37:37




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 Re: 450 PTO shaft from engine driving clutch in reply to Bob K, 08-27-2003 12:42:18  
Hi, check the pilot bearing, as a siezed pilot bearing will cause the transmission shaft to turn all the time.

JB



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Chuck

08-27-2003 17:21:22




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 Re: 450 PTO shaft from engine driving clutch in reply to Bob K, 08-27-2003 12:42:18  
It sounds more like your pressure plate is not releasing the clutch disc when you push in the pedal.Either disc is sticking or broken (piece of disc wedged between disc and pressure plate)or pressure plate out of adjustment or broken. You don't say if you had free travel before you split the tractor or if the pedal felt normal. I think the clutch is where I would start looking. My 2 cents worth....

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RPM

08-29-2003 08:55:51




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 Re: Re: 450 PTO shaft from engine driving clutch in reply to Chuck, 08-27-2003 17:21:22  
Or he put the disc in backwards?



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Chuck

08-29-2003 16:13:24




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 Re: Re: Re: 450 PTO shaft from engine driving clut in reply to RPM, 08-29-2003 08:55:51  
Yes, that would do it too.



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