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clayton

08-20-2003 18:52:14




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Can you remove a starter,and hook battery cables from batt to starter to see if starter is any good?Batt has full charge,all conections are clean,but when I hit the starter button it turns slow & dosn`t engage the fly wheel.Could it be the coil? Tractor starts easily with a hand crank.
Any help appreciated, Clayton.




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James

08-24-2003 19:59:42




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 Re: starter question in reply to clayton, 08-20-2003 18:52:14  
I recently had starter problems myself. Autozone here has not been a lot of help. I went to O'Reillys auto parts, they could get me a new one in 2 days. The price was $123. I ended up taking it to a man that rebuilt it, armature and all, for $30. My starter would run just fine off the battery or a battery charger, but it didn't have enough umph when installed. What caused the problem with my starter was my push button switch stuck and burned the armature. O'Reillys had a new switch on the shelf for $9. Good luck.

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riverrat

08-21-2003 07:51:46




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 Re: starter question in reply to clayton, 08-20-2003 18:52:14  
Might be the starter but I would replace the starter switch first. It's cheap enough and if it's not the problem you know you have a new one and can eliminate that question. Then take an ohm meter and check resistance from all cables from end to end. Should peg the needle just like if you were to hold the two prongs on the tester together. This would let you know where your problem lies. Also check the voltage at the starter terminal when you hit the starter button. Should be right around 6 volts. Much less than that (5.5 volts or so) isn't enough. Hope this helps to save you some $!

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Chris

08-21-2003 05:13:29




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 Re: starter question in reply to clayton, 08-20-2003 18:52:14  
The problem could be the starter, but I would check the starter switch first. They run about $15 at any dealership. I had the same problem with my farmall H and that is what it turned out to be. Had the same affect as you described. Just a simple cheap quickfix to ry before spending alot of money. Hope I helped.



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Randy in NE

08-21-2003 04:05:12




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 Re: starter question in reply to clayton, 08-20-2003 18:52:14  
You might also check your battery cables. I had my starter rebuilt and it didn't make much difference. Once I put new heavy duty battery cables on it spins over like it was connected to 12 volts. Mr. Hugh MacKay has been telling people for a long time that you need to change your battery cables every couple of years and these old 6 volt systems will perform just fine. He was correct in my case.

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Oldfarmboy Jim

08-20-2003 20:47:29




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 Re: starter question in reply to clayton, 08-20-2003 18:52:14  
Yes you can do that, but it won't solve your problem. Either the starter is bad or you are shorting out some of your current. The coil has nothing to do with it. Chances are if you take the starter out and check it, you'll think it is OK. Without a load, the starter will likely zip up to speed and make you think it's worth puting back in and giving it another shot. HA! I spent an afternoon doing just that. Finally took it to AUTOZONE. The guy asked me if it jumped out of my hands when I checked it out of the tractor. I told him no but it seemed to turn a lot faster. He said it should have enough torque so that you can't hang on to it when you apply current. He then showed me their tester and how they strap them down so nobody gets hurt by a flying starter. When he tested it, he just shook his head and said not enough torque to start a VW Bug. He knew they didn't carry an IH starter so he referred me to a shop that rebuilt it for $179.
I checked the tractor parts places on the Internet and a rebuilt one was $350 plus core. So,to make a short story long, take it to AUTOZONE or similar place and get it checked out. GOOD LUCK, Jim

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Dave_Id

08-20-2003 19:39:37




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 Re: starter question in reply to clayton, 08-20-2003 18:52:14  
Sure, but the problem is probably the starter



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