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ChrisNCharge

08-18-2003 17:54:24




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Looking through the original (rev5 3-60) TC-28H McCormick parts catalog for FARMALL M and MD series tractors. Found in the back a list of suffixes at the end of the s/n that denoted among other things altitude settings gear speeds etc. I have a super MTA propane that was special ordered by my grandad (IH dealer in the 40's to the 70's) s/n is 82663ES the E meaning cotton harvestor distillate 5000' altitude and the S meaning engines with undersize crankshaft (service). What does the undersize crank (service) mean as opposed to the undersize crank?Also the book shows there should be an X code with a number between the s/n and the ES. Did they drop this on the MTA's or do they have a different system? Thanks for any info provided

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Ralph Mellin

08-24-2003 22:57:37




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 Re: Serial number suffixes in reply to ChrisNCharge, 08-18-2003 17:54:24  
My Super M/MTA 472 p. parts book confirms, on p. 453, Cris's report. If the E is truly an E it should be repeated on the engine number. Mine includes a D for a 5,000-ft high-altitude attachment. See left side of the block. If the E is not repeated the E could be an F which would mean the tractor had a "cotton picker mounting attachment."



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Norm in Alabama

08-19-2003 06:28:14




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 Re: Serial number suffixes in reply to ChrisNCharge, 08-18-2003 17:54:24  
CKNS- what is your email address? I grew up in Parsons, KS. My uncle worked for the Case dealer in Dodge City. I would like to chat with you and also hope he gets his parts inventoried soon as I will need some for my SMV.



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Guy Fay

08-18-2003 19:28:00




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 Re: Serial number suffixes in reply to ChrisNCharge, 08-18-2003 17:54:24  
X codes were not used on the Super MTA family tractors. You need the Super MTA parts book- the M parts book won't cover most if not all of your tractor.



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CNKS

08-18-2003 18:27:49




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 Re: Serial number suffixes in reply to ChrisNCharge, 08-18-2003 17:54:24  
The code for "cotton harvester distillate", 5000 ft is X20E. Do you have a cotton harvester (high clearance) tractor? I am not sure the MTA came as one. If it did it is RARE and worth a lot of money. Since yours shows no X code, I refer to Guy Fay's data book where E means 8000 ft altitude attachment and S is TA with provision for 540 rpm pto. I think that makes more sense, but I won't promise. Where do you live that you need the 8000 ft attachment? The E, at least, may be a suffix to your engine serial, under the #1 spark plug.

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ChrisNCharge

08-18-2003 19:27:50




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 Re: Re: Serial number suffixes in reply to CNKS, 08-18-2003 18:27:49  
That makes more sense it does have the 540 PTO attachment. It is not a high clearance tractor. The M/MD codes must not interchange for the Super MTA I have a whole pile of orig books for farmalls, I'll dig thru them some more and see if I find one on the MTA. Ihave a 40' shipping container full of orig parts for these old tractors, they were just loaded in there when the dealership closed, I need to inventory them to get some form of order. I live in the Texas panhandle, and the tractor was ordered for the TX panhandle approx. 3600' altitude. I do know the shop mechanic replaced the pistons with oversize at the dealership when the tractor was new.

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CNKS

08-18-2003 19:39:48




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 Re: Re: Re: Serial number suffixes in reply to ChrisNCharge, 08-18-2003 19:27:50  
See Guy Fay's post above. Still curious if the 8000 foot designation is correct, since I don't think you usually gets much above 3600 feet. I live in Garden City, KS, (2500 ft) about 90-250 miles from you depending on where you are. Hope you get the NOS parts inventoried before long -- I might need some, sometime.



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