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53 Super M Hydraulics

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bob

08-12-2003 12:16:06




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I'm new to tractors and need some help. My manual doesn't show much on the hydraulic lines. My super M came with a hand operated lever to run the ram for the 3 pt hitch. It has two hydraulic lines running from the right side of the engine below the belt pulley. One goes into a port labelled in and the other to a port labelled out on the lever. It then has a line that runs to the ram in the middle. It works, although it spits oil out of the breather hole. I believe it's the original non live hydraulic setup. Does this setup sound right? From the posts I'm reading it doesn't to me.
Should I be using 30W oil? The dipstick shows it is low.

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Gene in NE

08-13-2003 12:01:06




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 Re: 53 Super M Hydraulics in reply to bob, 08-12-2003 12:16:06  
Randy in Ne gave a good explanation on the factory one-way hydraulic system. My Super M has the two outlets below the belt pulley and they are both pressure connections. They are activated by pulling back on the rod which moves the arm on the pump. The old two-row cultivator had a cylinder (ram) on each side of the tractor. Most farmers would put a pipe tee in one outlet to feed the front mounted equipment and then plumbed the other to the rear for pull behind equipment. We would use a two-way cylinder with a breather screwed in one port of the cylinder on the Super M.

We used 20-20W motor oil for the hydraulics. Our biggest problem was the cylinder then contained motor oil and if you connected to a newer tractor you had problems. The cylinder stayed on the John Deere No 9 mower and either the Farmall 350 or the Super M would use it - of course they had different hydraulic oil.

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bob

08-14-2003 04:59:22




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 Re: Re: 53 Super M Hydraulics in reply to Gene in NE, 08-13-2003 12:01:06  
Thanks to both of you for the info. I read some more posts and looked (and identified a little closer). I see that one of the feed lines is going to the switch and the other line is actually "t"d in to the breather pipe. So it is hooked up right. I checked the dipstick and added some 30W, but it is so clean I can't seem to get a good reading. I guess better over than under filled. Now the radiator has started leaking and I'm not getting a good charge on the ammeter, so I will forge ahead with my crash course in tractor repair. Thanks again.

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Randy in NE

08-12-2003 12:32:15




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 Re: 53 Super M Hydraulics in reply to bob, 08-12-2003 12:16:06  
The original on-board hydraulics were one-way. You applied pressure to one side of the ram in the cylinder to raise the cylinder. Gravity caused the weight on the cylinder to collapse the cylinder and the oil returned to the sump through the same single line when you pushed the control rod all of the way forward. The line from the "out" should be running to the cylinder. It sounds as though the seals inside the cylinder are bad allowing oil to seep past the ram and blow out the vent hole. The vent hole needs to be open so that the air on the back side of the ram can vent into and out of the cylinder as it is moving back and forth.

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