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Red Rider

07-21-2003 20:22:21




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Hugh, a couple of weeks ago I posted a question concerning replaceing my Farmall 100 engine with a C135. All indications from you and others on this board said it was a direct bolt in. I have found a C135 from a 340 but the rear of the block is different also the crank shaft is not drilled for the pilot bearing. What C135 engine is a direct bolt in?




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Red Rider

07-22-2003 20:18:07




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 Re: Question for Hugh Mackay in reply to Red Rider, 07-21-2003 20:22:21  
Thanks for all the information. I'll start my search again.



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K.B.

07-22-2003 19:47:15




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 Re: Question for Hugh Mackay in reply to Red Rider, 07-21-2003 20:22:21  
There are so many small differences between the C-113, C-123, C-135, and C-153 engines that it gets very confusing. Of course, most of the differences depend on where the engine came from. I would say that the closest thing to a direct bolt-in you can find will be the C-135 out of a 404. It has the 4-speed transmission like the 100, and should have the same clutch set-up. 340 has the 5-speed and TA.

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Hugh MacKay

07-22-2003 09:37:37




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 Re: Question for Hugh Mackay in reply to Red Rider, 07-21-2003 20:22:21  
Red: I don't remember exactly what I said, however I suspect any info I would have given came from IT service manual which covers 100, 130, 140, 200, 230, 240, 404 and 2404 tractors, C-123 and C-135 engines. That manual shows the same bolt pattern for both engines. both have the pilot bearing hole drilled in crank. In fact when you read this manual the specs lead one to believe the blocks are the same. Bore C-123 3-1/8, C-135 3-1/4 Stroke C-123 4, C-135 4-1/16. The following items are same in both engines; crankshaft journal, crankpin diameter, camshaft journals, valve stem diameter, main bearings running clearence, rod bearings running clearence, rod side play, piston skirt clearence, crank shaft end play, camshaft bearing clearence, camshaft end play, cooling system 3.75 gal. for all and crankcase 5 quarts for all.

Items different; piston pin diameter, valve settings, valve seats, carburation and rpm.

I trust this will cover what I may have said. One must remember that 340 will be a bit different in the crank- flywheel area as it has a different presure plate, being geared up for Indenendant PTO.

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