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Replacing the Upper Seal in the Tranny.

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Brandon

07-21-2003 05:57:34




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I have a 1941 H. I tried replacing the top seal (drive Shaft) going into my transmission this weekend and could not get the coupler off of the shaft. I used a gear puller and it would not budge. Is there something that I'm missing? Any help with this problem would be appreciated.

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Bob M

07-21-2003 09:14:36




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 Re: Replacing the Upper Seal in the Tranny. in reply to Brandon, 07-21-2003 05:57:34  
Brandon - You can improvise a very effective puller using the clutch shaft half of the transmission coupling:

Go into your 1/2" drive wrench set and find a socket that fits easily inside the tranny half coupling (i.e. it's OD is a bit smaller than the tranny shaft coupling bore ID). Place the socket in the coupling so it is bearing on the tranny shaft, then take the other half of the coupling and slide toward it's mate until it contacts the socket . The socket will now be trapped between the coupling halves. If necessary stack some washers, a big nut or something on the coupling so the two coupling flanges are about 3/4" or so apart. Finally take two suitable bolts & nuts (5/16"?? 3/8"?? - I'm uncertain of the size) and bolt the two coupling halves together. Tighten the bolts alternately and evenly - no more than 1/2 turn at a time each. As the bolts tighten the coupling halves will squeeze together. The socket trapped between them will cause the rear coupling half to be pulled off the tranny shaft.

I used this method several times - it'll pull the most stubborn coupling off the tranny shaft in just a few minutes.

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rustyfarmall

07-21-2003 06:44:49




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 Re: Replacing the Upper Seal in the Tranny. in reply to Brandon, 07-21-2003 05:57:34  
Did you remove the bolt that is down inside of the coupler?



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Brandon

07-21-2003 07:28:04




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 Re: Re: Replacing the Upper Seal in the Tranny. in reply to rustyfarmall, 07-21-2003 06:44:49  
Yes, I removed everything that I could including the bolt in the center. I put a lot of torque on the gear puller and it didn't move at all. Should I heat it up? Is there something that I'm not seeing?
-Brandon



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Theman

07-21-2003 07:52:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Replacing the Upper Seal in the Tranny in reply to Brandon, 07-21-2003 07:28:04  
If you plan to change the seal anyway, some heat would be OK. It comes straight off once you remove the bolt in the end of the shaft. The shaft is round with that narrow keyway. No hidden set screws or pins. I 've had one shaft that pulled off by hand and another that was as tough to get off as what you are describing.



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Brandon

07-21-2003 08:22:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Replacing the Upper Seal in the Tr in reply to Theman, 07-21-2003 07:52:59  
I'll try the heat. It is just held on there with the bolt and the keyway right? The dealer just told me that they thought it was threaded. They told me to turn it opposite the way the engine spins. Which on is it - a keyway or threaded?
Thanks,
Brandon



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rustyfarmall

07-21-2003 08:39:42




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Replacing the Upper Seal in th in reply to Brandon, 07-21-2003 08:22:19  
The main input shaft,(the one you are working on) is held in place with the bolt and keyway, the lower shaft,(transmission counter shaft) is threaded on.



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