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404 farmall flywheel

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J in Pa

07-19-2003 15:13:57




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i need to know if there is a bearing that goes in the flywheel of a 404 farmall. or is it just a pilot bushing in the crank shaft end? i wrote this forum before about the bushing getting beat out. 3 bushings in 2 years. as the dealers close at noon today , i didnt have time to contact anyone to find out about this.

everything else seems in fine order. the shaft is good. nothing worn to excess.and the coupling at it transmission is good.

if anyone can help, it is appreicated very much. thanks in advance and happy farmalling.

J in Pa

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Hugh MacKay

07-20-2003 09:08:24




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 Re: 404 farmall flywheel in reply to J in Pa, 07-19-2003 15:13:57  
J in Pa: I just went through the IT service manual and I can't see any mention of the pilot bushing. I have never had anything to do with 404, however the 100, 130, 140, 200, 230, 240, 404 and 2404, using C-123 and C-135 engines are covered in same IT manual and while cranks are different I suspect only difference is throw the C-135 having longer stroke. I have changed clutches in a number of C-123 engined tractors, and very seldom have I even changed the pilot bushing, as they aren't usually very troublesome.

One item I did notice is use of hydra creeper drive. If you are not familiar with it, a hydraulic motor that goes on pto and is driven by a remote outlet valve on tractor, and moves the tractor at a fraction of it's regular speeds via the pto and transmission. During use of this attachment tractor clutch pedal is held depressed. They make mention this requires a special release bearing as it is always turning while hydra creeper is in use. The same would be true of pilot bushing, and one would think a bearing would be required in place of bushing. Do you know if your tractor was ever used this way. My thoughts being that someone used this a lot, and shaft is worn where it enters pilot bushing. Have you ever checked this shaft size in relation to a new bushing? I am not suggesting I am right, but just a thought when going through IT manual and coming across this section on the hydra creeper drive.

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