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bill

07-11-2003 04:31:30




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just purchased. will start and run but wont hit on # 3 cylendar. smokes bad. what other series is the same as 584? what h p.? haven't found serial #. where is it located? i was told it is a 1981 model. any other info would be appreciated. thanks bill




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K.B.

07-11-2003 18:08:37




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 Re: 584 i h in reply to bill, 07-11-2003 04:31:30  
How warm of a day was it last time you started the tractor? How long did you run it? Did you get it up to operating temp? How many hours are on it? We had a 1979 686 with the D-310 German diesel, which is the 6-cylinder version of your D-206. It was very cold-blooded. On a 50 degree day, it would miss and smoke until it was warmed up and had been worked. About 1980, IH increased the compression of the German diesels from 15:1 to 16:1. Made them ten times the engine. We have a 786 and a 3088 with D-358 German diesels and 16:1 pistons, and you wouldn't even think they had almost the same engine as the 686. My advice to you is to get it good and warm, and see what happens. If nothing changes, ajust the valve lash and see what happens. If you still have problems then, it's probably time to let a Case-IH dealership look at it. Try to find the serial number, if it is older than 1980, consider overhauling the engine with the 16:1 pistons. A cloud of smoke is normal for the German diesels.

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JB

07-11-2003 17:15:01




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 Re: 584 i h in reply to bill, 07-11-2003 04:31:30  
Hi The 584D had a 4 cyl 206D CU IN German Diesel engine, which was same as IH 624D and 474D. Was about 52 HP but by adjusting fuel shut off on injector pump could deliver over 60 HP. This is little brother of 674/684D that had a 239D CU in. These engines were famous for running forever with very little maintance. Things to check for #3 cylinder:
1)Injector feed lines for leaks, be careful when engine is running as these line are under very high pressure and can prenetrate the skin with diesel fuel = blood piosoning.
2)To see if it is a bad injector, just swap to another cylinder. No big chore, just be careful to tighten hold down bolts evenly.
3)Check for antifreeze in the oil. If a previous owner overheat this engine the "O" rings on the sleeves could be damaged.
4)Is there excessive blowby coming out the crankcase breather ? If yes then maybe broken piston ring.

Good luck
JB

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