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Hydraulic Gauge for 300 Utility--Where should it g

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Kilian

07-08-2003 09:14:00




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I'd like to hook up a hydraulic gauge to my 300U system to check on the pressure (currently overheating), but am wondering where should it go? I have one valve (for fast hitch) and power steering. Any suggestions?

Also, will the gauge set-up need a shut-off valve as shown in the IT manual?

Thanks for the help.




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Hugh MacKay

07-09-2003 19:27:33




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 Re: Hydraulic Gauge for 300 Utility--Where should in reply to Kilian, 07-08-2003 09:14:00  
Kilian: I have never heard tell of putting a permenant hydraulic presure gauge on a tractor. Usually you just hook a presure gauge to check presure at one of the valve outlets. You mention overheating are you sure you want presure or is it temperature your wanting to monitor. Most temperature gauges of that era were put in the end of the hydraulic screen. The screens with this option that I am most familar with are the ones on SA, SC, 100, 200, etc. Some of them had it and some didn't. The screen on the 300 is the same type, just larger. I would imagion those came with or without hole for placing sencing element in end of screen. May be you can just drill a hole in flat end of screen. You should check at CaseIH dealer before you try that.

I will warn you, that you could be in for a surprise. Most working hydraulic systems operate just a bit hotter then you may expect. It is not uncommon during summer months not to be able to place your hands on any of the hydraulic components. The IH hydraulic temperature gauges registered only cold, run and hot, not actual degrees. I have seen the hydraulic system so hot you couldn't lay your hand on any part of it, yet the IH gauge would be in the run position. You are not the first person I have seen alarmed by this.

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Kilian

07-10-2003 06:17:26




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 Re: Re: Hydraulic Gauge for 300 Utility--Where sho in reply to Hugh MacKay, 07-09-2003 19:27:33  
Thanks for the reply. The gauge would not be permanent, I just wanted to check to make sure the pressure wasn't running high all of the time (bad flow control valve) causing the system to heat up.

I am surprised that the system would heat up so much under normal operation, and wanted to correct any problems before causing damage to pump seals, etc. The engine doesn't seem to be lugging at all times (as if trying to keep the hydraulics under full pressure) so perhaps everything is just normal.

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Hugh MacKay

07-10-2003 10:21:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Hydraulic Gauge for 300 Utility--Where in reply to Kilian, 07-10-2003 06:17:26  
Kilian: I understand what your driving at, I am more aquainted with the Farmall model. Short of cutting the high presure line from pump to system, I can't think of anywhere to tap in for what you are trying to achive.

Having said that, a tractor doing what you are concerned about will put extra load on engine when there is no hydraulic demand. If you start tractor with no load on hitch other than hitch itself, move the hitch up and down. When hydraulic cylinder on hitch reaches the end of stroke you should notice substancial load on engine if hydraulic system is not properly by passing. 300's were famous for a bit of a surge just as demamd stopped, however it was only momentary. Same with power steering when demand stops you would notice load on engine. If you have a problem it should be easiest to detect at half throttle, or less. Just try that and try it with tractor cold as well as hot. I have put about 75,000 hours on IH tractors in my lifetime and have never seen this happen. I will not say never will never happen as these tractors are now a lot older than when I used them.

One other question just hit me. Does your tractor by any chance have the draft controled hitch? That hitch was techicall new on 350 however over the years a few of them have made it onto 300's. If the draft control is out of time it can do this. Any system where by the further you push the lever the further the cylinder stroke goes, lever must be in time with cylinder. That is usually just a matter of adjusting linkage on lever so lever and cylinder reach limit together.

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