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Super A Frontend Axle Spacing

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scotty

06-30-2003 06:47:05




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I have the frontend off the Super A and I am trying to move the axle tubes in so I can get the spacing Im looking for. One problem, they seem rusted in place! If I could find someone with a large arbor press and some torches along with some good penetrating oil I might get it to move. Im wondering if anyone out there has any suggestions, or could tell me how you went about freeing your tubes up?
Thanks scotty

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Hugh MacKay

06-30-2003 13:54:13




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 Re: Super A Frontend Axle Spacing in reply to scotty, 06-30-2003 06:47:05  
Scotty: While I like Keith's idea and have used it several times, I did have one where that didn't work. In the end I had to use heat. A friend and I hung the front axle from ceiling, vertical and used massive heat. We had the center tube red from end to end. We anchored it at top so it couldnt turn. With a 12' ceiling, at one point we were afraid the building was going to burn, so much heat going up the chains. We called his son and he came and set up a fire pump at pond, and hosed building. We kept going finally it loosened as Kieth describes. After getting one end we had to turn and do other end. We also used a block of hardwood on both sides of tube at spindle and hammered on hardwood block with mall. We had been using a 3' pipe wrench. I found out since the the tractor in question had been used for hauling out and putting boats in salt water.

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KeithF

06-30-2003 08:49:02




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 Re: Super A Frontend Axle Spacing in reply to scotty, 06-30-2003 06:47:05  
About a year ago I was doing the same thing to the axle tubes of a Super A. I don't think you want to use drastic measures like big presses to get it to release. It could end up bending the shaft. What I did (and it did work) was to spray penetrant into both ends of the tube and let it soak for at least a week. Spray it every chance you get during that time. It will cost a couple cans of penetrant. Also, I beat on the rusted area a lot with wood block to loosen up the rust and dirt. I got a lot of dirt to come out by doing this and that will help the penetrant to get to the rust. At the end of a week of soaking, I started heating the rusted area so that it was smoking the penetrant. I would beat on it then while it was hot to loosen up the rust. I would then try to make the shafts turn or move with a large pipe wrench (2 ft.). I it was still too tight I would let it cool and spray more penetrant in both ends and repeat the next day. I got both to eventually break loose and they will come out easier if you can get them to rotate so that the rust bonds will be broken completely. On both shafts I found the penetrant had made its way nearly to the center of the rusted area. By being patient and letting it soak down there it will eventually do its job and break the rust bonds when it is heated and expands.

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scotty

06-30-2003 09:39:28




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 Re: Re: Super A Frontend Axle Spacing in reply to KeithF, 06-30-2003 08:49:02  
Thanks Keith, I will try that method before getting drastic.
scotty



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Hugh MacKay

07-01-2003 04:09:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Super A Frontend Axle Spacing in reply to scotty, 06-30-2003 09:39:28  
Scotty: After my friend and I had such a session with that one front axle I previously mentioned. We built a wooden trough and sealed it so it wouldn't leak. We filled it with waste oil products. We built it large enough so we could completely submerge a big Farmall wide front if necessary, and had a water proof cover. We never did have the need for using on another wide front end. Many times however we put in smaller items that were creating difficulty. I put items in there and left them over winter. It was a handy item to have around.

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gene b

07-01-2003 02:44:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Super A Frontend Axle Spacing in reply to scotty, 06-30-2003 09:39:28  
I have a friend who would put the whole axle in a 55gal drum of water and let it soak for a while he gets three point adjustable lift arms loose that way. I have unstuck three As by tapping tubr to loosen up crud and then using wd40 takes time to get stuff soaked real good but it will come loose in the end.



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scotty

07-01-2003 06:37:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Super A Frontend Axle Spacing in reply to gene b, 07-01-2003 02:44:45  
Thanks to all you guys for your suggestions!

scotty



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