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1 Wire Alternator?

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jmyt_47

08-14-2002 07:46:12




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I have a 300 that I rewired for twelve volts, according to the 12v conversion diagram in this website. Where can I get a diode/light combo to prevent feedback and battery drain when the tractor is off? Should the diode go inbetween the amp meter and alternator, or betweeen the battery and the amp meter? Does it really matter? Will the amp meter show charge with a brand new battery? The gage shows discharge with the ignition or lights on, and engine off. The gage doesn't show charge with the engine running. I've only run the tractor for 15 minutes or so.

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Bob M

08-14-2002 08:53:11




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 Re: 1 Wire Alternator? in reply to jmyt_47, 08-14-2002 07:46:12  
If you wire the alternator per the diagram, an auxiliary diode is not required. For the warning light, any 12 volt bulb rated at about 200 milliamps will do. An auto instrument panel or side marker lamp bulb (#57, 168, 194, 1815, etc) works fine. A suitable lampholder can be purchased at Radio Shack or at a parts store. IMPORTANT! Make sure the lampholder is a 2-terminal (ungrounded) type! A grounded (single wire) lampholder will not work if it is grounded to the tractor.

If the charging system is working properly the ammeter should show a slight (2 - 4 amps) charge with the motor running at speed and a fully charged battery. However with a fully charged battery, the the ammeter should indicate a charge of 30 amps or more immediately after starting, then taper off to 2 - 4 amps after running a minute or two.

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jmyt_47

08-14-2002 09:31:39




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 Re: Re: 1 Wire Alternator? in reply to Bob M, 08-14-2002 08:53:11  
Does the alternator have to have a good ground through the mounting bracket? It's a brand new alternator.



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Doug in OR

08-14-2002 09:45:32




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 Re: Re: Re: 1 Wire Alternator? in reply to jmyt_47, 08-14-2002 09:31:39  
Yes! But this shouldn't be a problem if you use metal for your brackets.



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Simp

08-14-2002 10:36:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 Wire Alternator? in reply to Doug in OR, 08-14-2002 09:45:32  

If it is a true 1 wire alternator, the regulator energizes the alternator to start the charging process. If you are getting feedback that runs the battery down ovrnite, either you have a bad or incorrect regulator. Also. if it doesn't charge, maybe the rpm's are not enough to energize it. Another thing to check if it had a positive or negative ground, you may need to switch the wires around on the amp gauge terminals. You can tell by the amp gauge working in reverse of what it should. Also make sure the gauge is good. I've seen many bad amp gauges. Hope this helps.

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jmyt_47

08-14-2002 11:30:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 Wire Alternator? in reply to Simp, 08-14-2002 10:36:24  
The amp meter gage is new,the tractor is wired negative ground. and I haven't let it sit long enough with the battery connected to notice battery drain. The alternator mounting brackets were painted first, then assembled to a painted engine. How can I test for battery drain with the engine off? I have access to a multimeter. What about testing the alternator to see if it's working while the engine is running?


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Bob M

08-14-2002 11:46:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 Wire Alternator? in reply to jmyt_47, 08-14-2002 11:30:32  
Multimeter tests for you....

1 - Battery drain: Make sure the lights and ign switch are off. Set the multimeter to read DC amps. Now remove the battery ground cable and connect the black meter lead to the battery post and the red lead to a good ground (can use the grounded cable terminal). Begin with the highest amp switch setting on the multimeter, then work down a step at a time until you get an indication. If the meter shows about 10 milliamps or less, that's fine. A higher reading means there's a current drain somewhere, most likely in the alternator. If it goes to 0 when you disconnect the wire from the alternator BAT terminal, the alternator is the drain.

IMPORTANT!! DO NOT turn on any electrical loads (lights, ignition) or hit the starter while performing this test or you will destroy your meter!


2 - Running voltage reading: Set your meter to DC volts and measure the voltage directly across the battery terminals with the motor running at 1/2 speed. 13.8 - 14.5 volts is normal. Less voltage means the alternator is not charging fully, and more means the battery is being overcharged.

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clacde adams

06-14-2006 20:02:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 Wire Alternator? in reply to Bob M, 08-14-2002 11:46:01  
need to know how to install one wire alternator on farmall 450 ?/ thanks for any help i can get on this problem



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08-14-2002 12:47:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 Wire Alternator? in reply to Bob M, 08-14-2002 11:46:01  
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