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jim pa.

03-15-2002 14:09:37




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I have a H with overbore & crater pistons. will it run a 7ft.new idea cutditioner for mowing hay. I have a chance to buy one in good shape. thanks for any help.




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Jordan Flagstad

07-20-2005 05:30:23




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 Re: H/cutditioner in reply to jim pa., 03-15-2002 14:09:37  
My neighbor had one of these 7ft New Idea Cut/Ditioners that you are speaking of that he let me have. Before running it, I jumped on this forum, and found this subject. I was lead to believe that my Farmall M wasn't going to be enough to run it. I guess I didn't really believe that as he always ran it with a JD 70 for years, and my M always would run circles around his JD 70.

Anyway, I took it out and cut 5 acres of relatively thick alfalfa pasture mix that had been sitting for a year so it was pretty grown up. The M didn't have a problem at all. I ran it in first gear, as if I went faster, it seemed to miss some grass and do a poor job of mowing.

Last night, I decided to try it out behind my Oliver 77 RC. My M runs stronger than my Oliver so I figured that the old Oliver may have some troubles. The Oliver did just fine, and prooved to be the better tractor for running this piece of equipment with the live power and all. I would say that I need to find a new PTO shaft for teh cutditioner that runs down the tow tongue, as my whips out of center about 2-3 inches when running.

Just my observations here guys, not trying to belittle anyone here, but my to little machines handle this 7ft cutditioner just fine.

Jordan East Bethel, MN

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Paul

03-18-2002 13:32:22




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 Re: H/cutditioner in reply to jim pa., 03-15-2002 14:09:37  
You would have to be nuts to try to pull it with a H we have an International 656 that is a little turned up and it will kill that tractor I can pull 2nd gear but you can watch the temp. gauge go straight up. They are good mowers for drying the hay fast. But they take a LOT of horsepower. I would say don't even try it, if it does pull it it is going to beat the tractor. Just my thoughts.



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Dave Wilcox

03-16-2002 19:59:07




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 Re: H/cutditioner in reply to jim pa., 03-15-2002 14:09:37  
Its me again, there's a big difference between a New Idea Cutditioner and any mower- conditioner / NH haybine, Hesston pt__- or JD New Idea cutditioner has only heavy flails to cut and condition hay takes a lot of power, but works well in down hay. The others with the big reels, cutter bars, and conditioning rolls take a lot less power and should work with and H. I've used both kinds.

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TL

03-16-2002 14:11:16




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 Re: H/cutditioner in reply to jim pa., 03-15-2002 14:09:37  
I pull a 7ft. hesston with a stock 48 H and have had no problems,live power would be nice.



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C Kulig

03-16-2002 11:53:57




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 Re: H/cutditioner in reply to jim pa., 03-15-2002 14:09:37  
I wouldn't recommend it. Hooked a 9 footer to my M to cut thistle out in the pasture and It had all it wanted to pull it.



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Dave

03-15-2002 18:22:31




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 Re: H/cutditioner in reply to jim pa., 03-15-2002 14:09:37  
Those cutditioners take a lot of horsepower try before you buy



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Michael Soldan

03-15-2002 15:53:13




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 Re: H/cutditioner in reply to jim pa., 03-15-2002 14:09:37  
Jim, it shouldn't be a problem, when you get into the heavy hay drop down a gear. You should be able to go in 3rd and fourth if its dry. Good luck



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Dick

03-16-2002 07:04:09




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 Re: Re: H/cutditioner in reply to Michael Soldan, 03-15-2002 15:53:13  
A friend of mine said that he needed at least 45 to 50 horse to run his. I'm not sure you want to work your H that hard. My 2 cents



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