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6 - 12 Volt Generator

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Harold H

06-13-2007 19:15:31




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Can a 6 volt generator be made to put out 12 volts without changing the field wiring by changing to a 12 volt regulator?

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Harold H




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Brownie450

06-14-2007 17:48:24




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 Re: 6 - 12 Volt Generator in reply to Harold H, 06-13-2007 19:15:31  
Had the generator off the 560D to check the output. The guy at the local shop put it on the tester & it cranked out 75 volts. I don't know how he hooked it up, but I'm sure he had the field shorted & had the speed as fast as the machine was capable of producing. He said it was O.K. since it didn't short the armature or field. I wouldn't have believed him if I hadn't seen the reading myself.



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Harold H

06-14-2007 11:35:04




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 Re: 6 - 12 Volt Generator in reply to Harold H, 06-13-2007 19:15:31  
I just got this non running tractor yesterday and looked at it closer this morning. It does not have a wiring harness or a regulator on it at this time. There is a 12 stamped on the generator housing so it may actually have a 12 volt generator already. There is no number plate on the generator. I guess when I get a wiring harness and a regulator on it and get it running we'll find out if it is really a 12 volt generator.

Harold H

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HENRY E NC

06-14-2007 08:46:10




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 Re: 6 - 12 Volt Generator in reply to Harold H, 06-13-2007 19:15:31  
A 6 volt generator usually puts out 7-8 volts and will work very well in a 12 volt system. So will a 6 volt starter. The starter will spin faster with 12 than with 6 V buts works very well. I have this setup on my M for several years with no problems . Sometimes I run it for 30 mins, sometimes for 6-8 hours and it works just the same. Might be a shade slower charging. BUt then, whats the difference between 5 or 10 minutes. John T is also correct.
I imagine they make 12 volt generators now because everything is no 12 volt( I have also dealt with several 24 volt systems over the years and used 18 volt generaters successfully)

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John T

06-14-2007 04:19:41




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 Re: 6 - 12 Volt Generator in reply to Harold H, 06-13-2007 19:15:31  
Harold, Basically a Generator doesnt know what its output should be, its increaded EITHER by spinng it faster ORRRRR RR passing more current through its Field windings which increases the electromagnetic field strength resulting in more output, which (regulating field current) is a function of the Voltage Regulator.

I have used 6 volt gennys to successfully charge a 12 volt system SIMPLY by changing to a 12 volt Voltage Regulator, and they worked not a problem BUTTTTT TTTT they didnt set the world on fire and didnt produce very high charging amps, buttttt t they did work and kept the battery charged.

THAT BEING SAID its NOT the best or engineering correct or proper way to do things, IM ONLY SAYING IT CAN WORK!!!!! !!!!! !!!!! if used long n hot n hard enough and subjected to high amp charging charging requirements causing it to overcurrent and/or overheat, things could eventually go sour, but if light charge rates are required it could last a long time, mine never went bad.

An old fashioned genny n starter repair shop (if any still exist near you) could convert the 6 volt genny to 12 volt by changing the field coils and change out the armature if required as the commutator segments and spacing can be different.

The other option is to simply buy a used or rebuilt 12 volt genny n be dome with it or as mentioned above have a shop convert yours to 12 volts in an engineering correct procedure.

BOTTOM LINE YESSSSS it can charge at 12 simply by changing to a 12 volt VR,,,,, ,,,,, BUT its not engineering correct and may work a long time or a short time depending on the battery and load and conditions.....

John T

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gene bender

06-14-2007 03:04:09




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 Re: 6 - 12 Volt Generator in reply to Harold H, 06-13-2007 19:15:31  
if a 6v gen would make 12volts why would they have made a 12v generator?



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