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GordoSD

06-09-2007 07:41:38




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My 966 was on another job so last evening I hooked up the NH275 baler to the SUper H. What a disaster. No live PTO and the lack of power made for a lot of time. a lot of cussin and about only 150 bales before I quit in disgust. I could barely make it up a 5 degree incline slope. I made those windrows thinking the 966 would be there, and they were just too bad for the little boy.It's definitely a job for no less than the SMTA which is about 30 hours away from full restoration. I gaurantee it will be done in time for the second cutting. Also, DO NOT BUY the 9000 sisal twine from TSC. When the old twine ran out and the new twine went in the baler started coughing out alfalfa balls. That 'new' twine was twice the diameter of the other, and all twisted up.

Gordo

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Buzzman72

06-10-2007 09:18:22




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 Re: Baling with SH in reply to GordoSD, 06-09-2007 07:41:38  
Dad and Grand-dad sold and installed a lot of M and W "Tenderfoot" hand clutches over that very issue. But add that, and M and W live hydraulics, plus a 3-point conversion, and you made an H into a viable tractor for a lot of years...and removing the sheet metal to work on it wasn't the battle it was on the '00/'50/'60-series tractors, either.



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Hugh MacKay

06-10-2007 19:54:27




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 Re: Baling with SH in reply to Buzzman72, 06-10-2007 09:18:22  
Buzzman: I always saw the battle as getting that sheet metal back on being the real problem. We had a neighbor, got so discusted with his 300, he just welded those side panels in place, then cut them to remove.

60 series wasn't quite as bad but it was never tight either. I think the grill of my 560 rattled and vibrated for 10,950 hours of the 11,000 hours we put on it. It was always tightest after I drilled holes in side panels and used haywire.

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Hugh MacKay

06-09-2007 19:05:26




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 Re: Baling with SH in reply to GordoSD, 06-09-2007 07:41:38  
Gordon: The plunger knife is dull, and very likely the plunger is out of adjustment. Now, I realize you didn't have IPTO. Your Super H should be making 2nd gear in windrows the width of that pickup, and the crossbar flattening the windrow tops. If the Super H won't make 10 ton per hour with that baler, something is wrong with tractor or baler or both.

Believe me I have baled hay with pto drive S-69 powered by my Farmall 130, and baled 6-7 ton per hour. I was in same position as you, big tractors were busy.

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vally farm

06-09-2007 16:31:27




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 Re: Baling with SH in reply to GordoSD, 06-09-2007 07:41:38  
I use my Super H all year, every year pulling a 273 with a kicker and 14-18 ft wagons. The only time I ever had any problems is when the 18 footer is over 1/2 full going op a steep hill. I just shift down to first and keep on going. My Super H is still on its first motor. Mike



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BOBM25

06-09-2007 15:13:30




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 Re: Baling with SH in reply to GordoSD, 06-09-2007 07:41:38  
Yeah, those new big balls of twine will not work in the old balers. They didn't work in our 435 either. We bought some a few years ago. Didn't even make 100 bales before we took it out and bought some of the old smaller balls.



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Steven@AZ

06-09-2007 08:36:29




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 Re: Baling with SH in reply to GordoSD, 06-09-2007 07:41:38  
I think baling with an H or Super H would work OK if you had a thin windrow and/or the low-low first gear.

Dad made many idiot cubes with his H and a New Holland 69 baler. Tractor ended up knocking out a rod bearing and wearing out the governor... see link for a video of a 300 baling and listen to the governor work overtime!

300 and square baler.

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Al -VA

06-09-2007 08:33:15




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 Re: Baling with SH in reply to GordoSD, 06-09-2007 07:41:38  
How large were the bales?



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GordoSD

06-09-2007 11:54:40




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 Re: Baling with SH in reply to Al -VA, 06-09-2007 08:33:15  
The bales were about 44 inches long, about 55 lbs. I could see maybe the tension might be a factor but I didn't have it screwed down to super pack, guitar string tight mode. How would nale size affect the power required. I wouldn't think the packer would know what's going out the back end?

Gordo



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Al -VA

06-09-2007 16:15:56




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 Re: Baling with SH in reply to GordoSD, 06-09-2007 11:54:40  
I was curious as I have been removed from baling for a number of years and we use to have a 45 baler pulled by an H. I can not remember what gear we baled in but it kept me busy loading bales when in heavy hay. They were about 70lbs.



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GeneMO

06-10-2007 06:52:04




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 Re: Baling with SH in reply to Al -VA, 06-09-2007 16:15:56  
It sounds like your windrows were just too big, but you knew that. Probably the lack of live power was your biggest frustration. We baled a zillion wire tied bales with a straight M equiped with an M&W hand clutch. I realize the power difference between the two, but the hand clutch or live power makes all the difference in the world.

Gene



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