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ih 350u clutch adj (again)

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lester350u

06-05-2007 18:42:46




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Ok, after looking at it again through the inspection hole with all linkage removed here is what I come up with.I turned the clutch release lever until t\o bearing was as far back as it would go away from the pressure plate.Now there is approximent 3eights of a inch between t\o and fingers I know this is not what I want for final adj sooooo just bear with me.I started tractor engine still approximent 3eights between the two at idle. BUT when throttle is advanced fingers advance toward t\o bearing that much causeing t\o bearing to spin.Could the finger adj not be correct,Should i try to adjust them tighter? It was a new replacement...gota do something thanks tractor vet and all.

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Janicholson

06-05-2007 19:16:03




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 Re: ih 350u clutch adj (again) in reply to lester350u, 06-05-2007 18:42:46  
My opinion is as follows:
(bear with me) Finger and coil spring (Borg and Beck style) pressure plates are generally are centrifugal in the sense that the fingers are a weight that flys outward making the pressure greater (to some extent) when RPMs are higher. If a clutch driven disk is installed correctly, and has cushion springs(wavey flat component between friction surfaces), the pressure plate tension will flatten the cushion springs to completely flat. The friction material is basically noncompressable, and so the pressure plate has no possible way to go further toward the flywheel. The portion of the engaging feel as the clutch starts to move the tractor, and that point where the pedal pressure drops off as it comes out, is the cushion springs doing their cushoning. The fingers should try to apply more pressure as the RPM increases, but there is (again no where to go. If they move at all it would be less than 50 thousandths.
There should be no where near as much change as you are indicating.

If the disk was installed backwards, and the torsion spring set (coil springs spaced around the center of the hub of the driven disk) was against the flywheel, the pressure plate would be put in a bind that would have the pressure plate pushing on it before it touches the flywheel. This would cup the disk, and allow it to drag when fully depressed, and not release all the way when the pedal was out (It has happened many times to experienced mechanics). The angular contact of the PP on the friction material makes it seen like it has very thick cushion springs, and would allow the fingers to actually do as yours are doing. The only other element that might affect this is a bad flywheel resurface job, with wrong technique, and wrong numbers. My best guess is to pull it apart again and see what is between the friction surfaces. JimN

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the tractor vet

06-05-2007 19:02:39




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 Re: ih 350u clutch adj (again) in reply to lester350u, 06-05-2007 18:42:46  
You got problems somewhere as the release bearing should have more clearance then that . and when the speed of the engine increases the finger should not move out this is not a Crowler Glide . Whenya installed that new clutch did ya hve the flywheel ground and the pressure plate step cut like you should have ??? I would say that the disc is setting down in the flywheel to far and this is allowen the fingers to come out way to far . Once free travel is set the throwout bearing should never touch the release fingers.

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