For Hugh MacKay

I am fully aware that tone of voice can easily be mistrued from simple text, but I respectfully asure you, sir, that I "know my way around" farming and tractors and most things agriculture related, as the profession has been in my family for generations. I feel I am a very respectful young man, but I will not allow myself to be "talked down to". I welcome your and everyone else's knowledge and insight on this board. If I interpreted your reply wrong I apologize.

http://www.ytmag.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=farmall&th=216994 and for Bob, you need a bit of an attitude adjustment! You kind of sound like my brother, knows all-and won't be told otherwise, never would admit there could be an ounce of truth to what someone else has to say, and the world is only in black and white. The day you can take other peoples opinions like a man is the day day you mature. I see you aren't there yet.

Do not insult my character. Do not call me names. Name calling is immature. I did not call anyone names. I do not think I "know it all". There is alot of stuff I don't know about. What I do know is "Don't talk fast hitch to me" and "I'll now go one step further" are rude remarks and unnecessary.

YOU insulted Hughs character. You also insulted other people by saying their tractors were bad, and with a snotty attitude, just as you began the last reply...with a snotty attitude. As for the rest of your post...if the shoe fits, wear it.

I said the Super MTA was not as you claimed. "ahead of it's time" my feeling was IH were about 8 years behind the time. Both the Cockshutt 40 and Oliver 88 had 6 cylinder engines, both Cockshutt and Oliver had Independant PTO by 1946. Cockshutt had live dual action hydraulics by 1946. Not sure when Oliver go the live hydraulics. Both Cockshutt and Oliver had a much better range of gears at working speeds. I also said that SMTA could not hold a candle to Cockshutt 40 or Oliver 88 either at the drawbar or on the pto shaft. I stand by that and if that creates a problem for you, so be it.

I'll now go one step further, and by the way I clocked over 75,000 hours on 5 TA equipped tractors. TA did not give one a wider range of working speeds, it did little more than reduce 4th to 3rd and 3rd to 2nd. We waited for 8 years for a TA that would hold back on the low side. Cockshutt and Oliver both had durable IPTO from day one in 1946. I had a 300, 560 and 504, let me assure you IH IPTO was not durable until the introduction of 06 tractors.

Don't talk fast hitch to me, I cut two of them up for scrap before the tractors were 10 years old. By the way Harry Ferguson won the hitch war before IH sold it's first fast hitch on the Super C.

I am deeply sorry to all those whom I may have offended with MY choice of MY favorite farmalls. Apparently both of them were the worst 2 tractors ever produced by International Harvester.

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Allan