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M Steering Wobbly

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Lance_MF_180

05-16-2007 10:22:53




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Hi Guys, I tried to do a search here but no real luck. My farmall M narrow front wobbles badly down the road. What can I do on the cheap end to fix (keep the wife happy) and what can I do to fix it right and be done. and about what is the cost range. Thanks All!!!
Lance




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HENRY E NC

05-16-2007 20:38:59




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 Re: M Steering Wobbly in reply to Lance_MF_180, 05-16-2007 10:22:53  
I suggest you first jack up the front and then wobble the wheels by hand. Watch to see if the steering rod moves. Also remove the top of the steering box and see if the gears and spiral mech properly ALSO, when you turn the sterring does the sector gear move back and forth? If so the bushing bearing on the top of the bolster is worn. Remove sector gear, jack up tractor to allow steering shaft drop down and replace bushing. They rotate as yhey come out. Also, check you front wheel bolts, etc. Mine workrd loose and caused a wobble.I did all these and fixed for 26$.

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John S-B

05-16-2007 14:29:28




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 Re: M Steering Wobbly in reply to Lance_MF_180, 05-16-2007 10:22:53  
Lance, I just put in new bushings into my M. It did wonders, absolutely no wobble in the front end. I did have the 360 degree sector gear, but I could tell it had already been rotated 180 degrees but did not have excessive wear but I still rotated it 90 degrees to be centered on the two sides that had wear already. The parts cost about $130 for the complete set but it did not include the seal for the steering wheel shaft. The job can be done by one person but two is easier. I used a pair of vice grips with the chain for pipe to hold the upper bolster in place. I have a couple of pics in the stuck and troubled gallery if that might help. Just do a search for my name and that should bring it up. I still have a little play in the steering wheel but that is from the u-joint that I will get to when I replace the steering wheel.

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F-Dean

05-16-2007 13:02:20




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 Re: M Steering Wobbly in reply to Lance_MF_180, 05-16-2007 10:22:53  
Most likely, the bearing at the end of the steering shaft in the top of the front Bolster is badly worn. Replacing this expensive 3-part bearing will most likely remove most of the "slop" in the steering of your 50+ year old tractor.



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Shane in IN

05-16-2007 11:42:14




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 Re: M Steering Wobbly in reply to Lance_MF_180, 05-16-2007 10:22:53  
I"d get her fixed, the right way, ASAP if you"re using the old M much. A fellow I know was nearly killed when the steering failed on his M. He was in road gear when the steering went, front wheels took a hard right, hit a guardrail and the tractor flipped over. He was lucky to crawl away with just a broken arm. Be careful!

Shane



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Larry in WNY

05-17-2007 09:26:24




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 Re: M Steering Wobbly in reply to Shane in IN, 05-16-2007 11:42:14  
My bother drove our M with front end loader in road gear about 1 mile, pulled into the driveway then lost steering. The nut on the front of the steering pedestal holds everything together. It cracked in half allowing the worm to disengage the steering gear. We got lucky on that one. I can't count the number of times I drove that M in road gear up and down the road. Fix it right.

Larry



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Nat 2

05-16-2007 11:28:59




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 Re: M Steering Wobbly in reply to Lance_MF_180, 05-16-2007 10:22:53  
Probably a combination of several small wobbles adding up to one big wobble...

1. The universal joint is worn, shot, or slipping on the steering shaft.
2. The worm and sector gears are worn.
3. The sector gear is not tight on the steering post.
4. The bushings holding the steering post are worn.

There really isn't a whole lot on the cheap you can do. You can try to stuff a beer can shim between the sector gear and steering post to take up some of the slack. You can try to adjust the lash on the worm gear to take up some more slack. Worst case, you need to replace the worm and sector, along with all the bushings and seals on the steering post shaft.

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