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O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!!

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Andrew Z

05-14-2007 17:58:48




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there is a boycot of gas tommrow in order to get the prices to drop!!! this is a nation wide effort and it could possible make a diffrence, who know's all I lknow is that i cant afford 3:15 a gallon for 87!!!!

Andrew




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BF8690

05-15-2007 11:14:24




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 17:58:48  
I guess we should all go back to using horses. That would really bring the prices down.



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City-Boy McCoy

05-15-2007 10:23:48




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 17:58:48  
I saw one estimate where 700,000 gallons of gasoline were burned this year by students traveling somewhere/anywhere(?) for Spring Break. The next week they were - no doubt - back in class worrying about the effects of fossil fuels on the environment. I wonder how much is burned each year by, for example, NASCAR fans going to races? We don't seem to really be serious about gasoline conservation in this country. mike

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John in Ct

05-15-2007 08:07:52




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 17:58:48  
It is high because oil and gas are a traded commody. It isn't supply and demand. I will believe it is supply and demand when there are lines and fuel shortages. If we buy less gas the price will still go up because they aren't selling as much and need to make the same profit.



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MN Mike

05-15-2007 07:03:33




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 17:58:48  
As others have said, not buying gas for one day won't change anything because oil companies know we will double our purchases the next day. The only way to really change the price of gas is to stop using so much. Carpool, ride your bike, walk, stay home, etc. You'll see the benefit in your wallet long before gas prices change.



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RustyFarmall

05-15-2007 06:51:16




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 17:58:48  
Here's another way to work the system. Pick a day when you do not have to drive to work, and then park your car in the garage, driveway, whatever, and leave it there. Do not start the engine, do not drive to the store for a gallon of milk, do not drive to the restaurant for lunch. Stay home. There is no way possible that we can all do this on the same day, but if we all leave our cars or trucks parked for just one day per week, we could make a tremendous impact.

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Janicholson

05-15-2007 06:36:45




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 17:58:48  
The "issue' is to present to the Producers/government/middlemen etal. that a unified effort by a substantial number of drivers can happen. The wakeup is just the formation of a reaction capable group, no effect on actual consumption is intended. The alliance of even 20% of consumers on a specific day is more powerful than any monitary effect on the MAN. Consume less as much as possible. Work smart and avoid dead heading (pun intended) even when walking out to the shead. JimN

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Dave F

05-15-2007 06:00:33




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 17:58:48  
I agree with tractor Vet, That big oil controls the country, & don't think for a minute the oil companys control OPEC. They tell them how much oil to produce, & this latest refinery problems is BS. all of the billion dollar profits they made wouldn't you think they would fix their refinerys, also we needed to ask our next presidenal candidates what there involment is with the Big oil companys, All the Car company are crying now because sales are down, they are paying for it now for being bed fellows with the oil companys they could produce years ago more effecient(sp) vehicle. what about synethic full back in WWII when there was no gas they made synethic fuel, Thanks for letting me rave, I will step off of my soap box now.

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teddy52food

05-15-2007 05:51:18




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 17:58:48  
How many of you have heard of Joe Newman? He has hand made motors that produce there own power from a permant magnet. His cars don't go very fast yet but I think his tecnology should be looked into. The patent office won't patent it saying it is a perpetual motion machine.



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JOHN in PENN.

05-15-2007 04:54:20




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 17:58:48  
LETS STICK IT TO THEM !!!!! !!. this gas pricing is stupid - STUPID !!!!!



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IaGary

05-15-2007 04:48:51




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 17:58:48  
So what your saying is not to fill my 900 gal fuel barrel for the farm today wait till tomorrow right?

I think I got enough until tomorrow.

Gary



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Hugh MacKay

05-15-2007 02:46:49




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 17:58:48  
Andrew: I suppose you all filled up this afternoon just so you wouldn't need any tomorrow. All this caper is going to acomplish is give the local gas station attendant a day off, and he probably needs the days pay worse than a day off.

Now if you guys rally want to acomplish something, reduce your gas comsumption by 30% for the next 3 months. I don't care how you do it, just figure it out and do it. That one will get the gas excutives thinking.

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Teddy52food

05-15-2007 05:34:35




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Hugh MacKay, 05-15-2007 02:46:49  
I agree with Hugh. One day is not enough.



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brainerd dave

05-14-2007 22:26:54




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 17:58:48  
I've got a job tomorrow in Aberdeen, so I'll be driving and buying gas. I'm not much for participating in useless trendy efforts. May as well hold hands across America again for all the good it will do.



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georgeky

05-14-2007 21:04:04




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 17:58:48  
I will not buy any tomorrow, but in order to help we as a people have to quit riding around just for the Hell of it. Go after groceries once a week or once every two weeks.Folks who have to drive to work will have to car pool. It is a supply and demand issue. As long as demand is this high prices will be too. The same with corn. As sooon as some crop reports were made available, corn prices fell, they will fall more between now and fall unless the crop is no good. Every time corn goes up a little folks scramble to plant all they can, and cut their own throats. This year I am exprimenting, I cut back on corn and am going to plant more beans. I don't raise enough to matter, but it will tell the story.

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NE IA Dave

05-14-2007 21:01:17




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 17:58:48  
I do not intend to kill the man nor his idea. That being said I feel like the others that it would do just as much good as slapping a cloud.

My personal feeling is why not have a lottery, or spin the bottle and target one company and try to avoid buying gas for a month from just that company, then next month make it a two month ordeal. Then three / 4 etc.

I personaly would prefer a honest survey and find out overall what company is average higher, and target that company for a month. Then next month advance it till we get the point across.

Can anyone guess how much our government wastes by flying to a resort area for a meeting etc. Have they heard of conferance calling and even a telephone? Maybe even a internet could be used to comunicate?

There is no reason why we should not have wind power for a large percentage of our energy needs. Our politicians need to be grabbed by the part that hurts worse on election day. The oil companies can pad the politicians pockets, but I feel there are more of us than them dudes come election day.

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the tractor vet

05-14-2007 20:21:57




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 17:58:48  
And do you realy think that a one day deal would even bother them , not in your wildest dreams because the next day you will be in there fillen your tank nomatter the price. And they know darn well that nobody can just set home , ya GOT TO MOW GRASS Ya got to go to the store for that bottel of milk or loaf of bread . As today nobody plans ahead . We had to get the crops out here again nomatter the cost of fuel or fertilizer so we had the crop to feed the cows come winter and to pay the bills . Now if ya want to real make and impression ya have to stop the fuel flow and stop the beer trucks , now will get everybodys attenchion . BiG oil controls this country not the goverment as do you think our goverment is going to bit the hand that put them in office come on give me a break . How many of you have cut back on the fuel usage ?? This has been going on since back in the 70's , Back then ya had us routy truck drivers that tryed our best to keep things in line well now that they have put most of the owner operators out because they could not controls use now they have everybody looken out for them selfs and NOBODY can agree on if it is sunny out let lone stand together.

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Steven@AZ

05-14-2007 19:29:29




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 17:58:48  
A better idea is to park the SUV and drive something reasonable. Way too many of those guzzlers cruising around with only one or two people in them...

I even feel bad with just the two of us in a mid-size 4-door... but I'm an unusually cheap guy.



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Pair-a-dice farm

05-14-2007 19:12:17




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 17:58:48  
I don"t think it will work, but I will not buy gas on the 15th... I filled up on the 12th.

I think if everyone would stay home on the 4th of July it MIGHT have some impact. No driving long distance, no boats, no motor homes. But even that is a long shot.



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alaskan

05-14-2007 22:51:01




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Pair-a-dice farm, 05-14-2007 19:12:17  
It is a long shot. Just to throw this on the table, in the next 20 years, China's consumption alone will eclipse current production capabilities. That's just China. Kick in developing countries like India and South America and let's not forget the good ol' USA and you begin to realize that the days of cheap gas are officially over. Look what the EU is paying for gas and get used to it. Sure, there are a couple of spots in the world where it's cheaper, but every one of those are heavily subsidized with tax dollars. We had a good wake up call in the 70's, but we kind of forgot about that for a while. Well, it's back, and it's back to stay.

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gene bender

05-14-2007 19:07:33




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 17:58:48  
How can you lower prices when gas futures are bought and sold daily and the same with the price of crude. The oil people dont regulate those prices but demand sure does. One day sure aint going to make a difference as the next day you are going to need it. Supply and demand determines the price of everything.



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Andrew Z

05-14-2007 19:06:13




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 17:58:48  
Dont kill the messenger here guys and gals,I did not make this thing up or what not. I just thought I let people know something that I heard. weather it works or most likely not, I thought that it was interesting that there was such a large effort going on.

Thank you.

Andrew



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CNKS

05-14-2007 19:56:53




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 19:06:13  
As Gene said, the oil companies do not set gas prices, gas prices are set by traders, look at CNBC, channel 355 on direct tv, prices change every second. The only way to get prices down is to get a surplus. One day will send no message at all.



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Allan In NE

05-14-2007 19:10:29




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 19:06:13  
Seems like everyone forgets the 70s.

People just plain quit buying. Started carpooling, scrimping, cutting back and the like.

It brought big oil to it's knees for years.

Allan



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Ron in Mich

05-14-2007 18:56:36




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 17:58:48  
I won't be buying gas Tuesday but I doubt it will have any effect. If there were a free market for gas with demand effecting supply then reducing demand should lower prices. There is no free market now so if demand were reduced 50 percent the oil companies working as one unit just raise prices double and still take in the same amount of money for less gas sold.



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MN Scott

05-14-2007 21:14:11




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Ron in Mich, 05-14-2007 18:56:36  
Oil companies are like farmers in a way. They spend huge amounts of money to retreive oil from the ground then they sell it on the market. Traders in offices set the prices just like they set the prices for corn beans ect. If the traders see large demand or supply interuptions up go the prices just like corn and beans. About the only way oil companies can increase prices is to limit supplies by shutting down wells or referies. To bad we farmers can't learn from them and limit supplies to. But what happens when the traders raise corn prices? Like sheep we all rush out and plant everything to corn thus pleasing the traders by the increaced supply so now they can drop prices again after they have taken their profits.

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fort67

05-14-2007 18:51:25




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 17:58:48  
Got a better idea! Let the farmers produce crops and turn them to fuel. Promise you one thing the gov't and the oil companies wouldn't like that. Call your congressman and get everyone to complain. They want voted back in and until then keeping getting their pay from the fuel tax



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Nat 2

05-15-2007 07:32:01




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to fort67, 05-14-2007 18:51:25  
Okay Mr. Smartypants, what will we eat then?

We could plant every tillable acre in this country to corn for ethanol, and it won't make a bit of difference in the amount of oil we use. So-called "renewable fuels" are just public relations tools used by big oil to make us think that a solution is on the horizon, so we'll continue to buy expensive gas to feed our pickups and SUVs.

We'd all be nice and skinny, though, and I could certainly stand to go on a diet...

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MN Scott

05-14-2007 21:01:46




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to fort67, 05-14-2007 18:51:25  
To bad it takes about as much oil energy to produce the bio fuel as just burning the oil.



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City-Boy McCoy

05-14-2007 18:36:51




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 17:58:48  
It does not work, Andrew. What would work is if we all stopped driving our cars, trucks, tractors on May 15th, and did not make up for it by driving even more on the 16th. Supply - Demand. Unless you change one or the other, it does no good. Buying gas on Wednesday rather than Tuesday? Forget it. mike



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redbone

05-14-2007 18:14:48




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 17:58:48  
i hate to pop your balloon, but these 'one-day boycotts' do not work. the next day after the boycott everyone goes and fills up their tank and big oil smiles. the only way to drop prices is to decrease demand, and that means long term. i think big oil could hold out for weeks if everyone boycotted gas for that long. just try to use less each day and you will have more savings. my two cents. redbone.

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Andrew Z

05-14-2007 18:34:28




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to redbone, 05-14-2007 18:14:48  
its like the elections if sooo many poeple complian about who gets in but in reality who many of thoes people who are complaining actually voted? if you dont vote then dont B!@#. Soo buy not buying gas tommrow its at least a start! gotta start somewhere! the one of the gas stations in my town is actually closed tommrow, for this boycott. ITS WORTH A SHOT!!

Andrew



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460d

05-14-2007 18:03:05




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 Re: O/T Dont buy Gas on May 15!!!!! in reply to Andrew Z , 05-14-2007 17:58:48  
I have a 06 3/4hd chevy that will be sitting in the driveway more now that I will be riding my bicycle 8 miles one way to work and back. good for the wallet and the heart.



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