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Patrick Martin

05-14-2007 12:57:49




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Hey guys, what would be the best way to smooth out some land that was farmed and has remnants of the old rows.

I am using my land for pasture and currently can only drive in one direction across it (with any comfort).

I was thinking of lightly discing it, maybe 2"-3" deep each time I mow it. I don't want to pure'e the topsoil due to fear of severe erosion and also because I don't want to destroy the chunks of good grass I have already.

What....pray tell what..... .can I or should I do fellas??? :)

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GordoSD

05-14-2007 18:15:03




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 Re: Smoothing out a pasture... in reply to Patrick Martin, 05-14-2007 12:57:49  
If you have a tandem disc you can do a little leveling with it without totally destroying the current grasses. Usually in a tandem, the front set throws the soil inward and the rear throws it back out. Or vice versa. Doesn't make any difference. Set the fore and aft tilt so that the disc that is throwing the soil out is LOW and the discs that bring it back in are higher and also at less of an angle. Then disc down the center of the ridges, and it will toss the soil out and reduce the ridge.

Gordo

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georgeky

05-14-2007 20:49:41




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 Re: Smoothing out a pasture... in reply to GordoSD, 05-14-2007 18:15:03  
If a tandem dick is adjusted properly it will leave the ground the same as it picks it up. That plow is the only good solution.



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GordoSD

05-15-2007 08:32:49




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 Re: Smoothing out a pasture... in reply to georgeky, 05-14-2007 20:49:41  
My point exactly. What I said was to use the disc NOT PROPERLY adjusted, but with one set nearly out of the ground!

Gordo



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georgeky

05-15-2007 10:46:31




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 Re: Smoothing out a pasture... in reply to GordoSD, 05-15-2007 08:32:49  
I read your post again and do see that is what you were talking about.



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georgeky

05-14-2007 20:52:56




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 Re: Smoothing out a pasture... in reply to georgeky, 05-14-2007 20:49:41  
I should have said, the plow followed by the disk and drag like was mentioned by Nat2.



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Janicholson

05-14-2007 16:25:03




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 Re: Smoothing out a pasture... in reply to Patrick Martin, 05-14-2007 12:57:49  
I would use a mold board plow set to about four inches deep plow such that the material is turned off of the ridges into the valleys. adjust the plow dynamics so that one trip up the field, and another down mooves most of the ridge. I would then disk it once, and seed grass into it (or the pasture of choice) and drag it with a spike tooth set to almost flat. JimN



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SuperA-Tx

05-14-2007 15:29:03




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 Re: Smoothing out a pasture... in reply to Patrick Martin, 05-14-2007 12:57:49  
Guess they used a hiller to make the beds, they aint fun to drive over, kind of like a roller coaster.

Try disking the high spots a few times then hitting it with a harrow. Might have to go crossways of the old rows and drag the loose dirt down in the furrows.

If you have bermuda it will come back pretty fast from the old roots even if you cover it pretty deep. Course you could add some seed just to thicken it up and get a faster coverage. Bermuda seed will come up in about 7 days with this warm weather.

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Nat 2

05-14-2007 14:36:17




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 Re: Smoothing out a pasture... in reply to Patrick Martin, 05-14-2007 12:57:49  
The only non-destructive way to smooth it out would be to wait until it's REALLY wet, and roll it with a REALLY heavy roller.

Otherwise, you plow the whole thing up, disc it, drag it, possibly pull a long piece of heavy pipe or I-beam around to really smooth it off, seed it, and roll it.

If you can't afford to dig it up for fear of erosion, then you live with it being rough, I'm afraid.



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georgeky

05-14-2007 13:35:18




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 Re: Smoothing out a pasture... in reply to Patrick Martin, 05-14-2007 12:57:49  
Plow or Bulldozer.



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glennster

05-14-2007 13:20:56




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 Re: Smoothing out a pasture... in reply to Patrick Martin, 05-14-2007 12:57:49  
you can try lightly disking it and pull a roller behind the disk to help flatten the ground out. we used to use a brillion pulvi-mulcher to break up the dirt if it clodded, maybe someone in your neck of the woods may have one. you could try a a rotaty hoe with some weight on it to loosen the soil and hit it with the mulcher, that way you arent tearing up all the pasture grass.



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Andy Martin

05-14-2007 13:09:34




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 Re: Smoothing out a pasture... in reply to Patrick Martin, 05-14-2007 12:57:49  
A little more information would be good.

Where in the country, what kind of grass, what kind of livestock?

Did you ask a similar question earlier?



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Patrick Martin

05-14-2007 23:36:49




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 Re: Smoothing out a pasture... in reply to Andy Martin, 05-14-2007 13:09:34  
wow! FANTASTIC guys!!!! :)

This feild is ROUGH and for almost 15 acres. I beleive it was a cane feild at one time, that or soybean. Either way there are some hellacious rows and it's ridiculous trying to drive my truck across the feild. The rows aren't sharp but have indeed leveled out from time. I am still left with 15" rows standing 5" high or higher in some parts. There is a slight slope to my place but only toward the back and sides and that drains into a little bayou that borders me. This is where I'm fearful of losing my topsoil.

My plan was to shred/mow with one M and have my little brother follow me in the other with the discs. This would compost some of the grass I'd be cutting by working it back in and hopefully seeding at the same time.

Spreading seed while I'm doing this as mentioned above is a GREAT idea although I have no seeder. Is there a homemade unit I can make? I could possibly take a few of those home walk behind spreaders and rig them to pull behind the discs. I could even make a frame to hang a 5 gallon bucket of seed and use PVC and some smooth flexible tubing to pipe the seed into each hopper. Might be a good rig perhaps????? Either way, if I can do all of this in one sweep then I'd prefer it.

For everyones info, I have a combination of St Augustine and Bermuda in one and two acre chuinks all around the place. I have 23 acres total and I'm in Branch, Louisiana, in Acadia parish (zip code 70516).

And yep Andy...I thought for sure I posted this question earlier but I couldn't find it for some reason????? I am at the computer off and on but I always do come back and check the responses and comment when I'm back online. I can't figure out where the other one went though? :-/

I'll have to scoot until tommorrow afternoon so be assured that I will be checking back to this! :)

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SuperA-Tx

05-15-2007 16:13:58




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 Re: Smoothing out a pasture... in reply to Patrick Martin, 05-14-2007 23:36:49  
St. Augustine isnt a pasture grass and not as tough as bermuda so if you are going to try and save that you will have to be more careful. If you can leave strips of it it will spread by runners. If you dont cover it over a couple inches or less I have seen it come up thru the dirt too.

We have a fertilize spreader that broadcasts seed. It is a three point hookup and runs off the pto. Bermuda seed is a small seed so if your spreader doesnt have a setting small enough then mix the seed with some dry sand, like mortor sand. Corn meal also works good and isnt as heavy.

Lots of conpanies make small broadcast spreaders that would work for seed. I have also put tape over part of the hole to restrict the bermuda seed from pouring out to fast.

After the seed is out you might use a harrow over it but I have had good luck just seeding and nothing else.

Theres some good hyrid bermuda seed out now thats more like you see on golf courses if you not useing the area for pasture. Panama is the one I sell, real fine texture to it. Lots more expensive than common.

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