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jll

05-08-2007 07:07:02

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i have a 1965 656 with a widefront and want to move that widefront to a 1970 656. how heavy is the widefront? can i do it by myself? also, how hard is it to narrow the widefront? what is the easiest method to slide the tubes into the center tube? after that i want to sell the 65 with a narrow front. what do i need to figure on the value of the widefront end? it has no welds and is tight. thanks

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Bill46

05-09-2007 10:12:58

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Re: moving widefront in reply to jll, 05-08-2007 07:07:02

I am like that little guy on the Dodge tv add...Allan just scares the bleep out of me sometimes.....

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Nat 2

05-08-2007 11:51:53

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Re: moving widefront in reply to jll, 05-08-2007 07:07:02

Getting the tubes to slide may be a problem. Often, they're rusted, or simply out-of-round and jammed together; sometimes nothing short of direct intervention from God will get them to move. Occasionally you get lucky and they slide fairly easily.

Usually, it involves at least one, if not two or three large "rosebud" torches to heat the outer tube, jacks, hammers, chains, blocks... Once you get it apart you can sand down the inner tube so things slide easily.

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Steven@AZ

05-08-2007 08:07:51

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Re: moving widefront in reply to jll, 05-08-2007 07:07:02

Not too bad if you have a loader or cherry picker to help out. Or at least a couple of floor jacks on wheels and a way to keep it from falling off.

I swapped wide front onto my H by myself with a loader, chains, and a jack. Pretty simple operation.

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Allan In NE

05-08-2007 07:57:40

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Re: moving widefront in reply to jll, 05-08-2007 07:07:02

Nothin' to it. It's a bolt and unbolt deal.

Allan

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J.J. from Afton

05-08-2007 21:01:34

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Re: moving widefront in reply to Allan In NE, 05-08-2007 07:57:40

Just a random thought Allan but that tractor looks like it is going to be the back half for one of those home made articulators. Just hook another one to the front of that and youve got a home engineered four-wheel-drive. :)

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MN Scott

05-08-2007 20:51:33

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Re: moving widefront in reply to Allan In NE, 05-08-2007 07:57:40

Ya Allan, you better get some concrete blocks under that tractor, those wood blocks just are not stable, LOL... Kidding aside if your not going to be working under the tractor that setup is perfectally stable with the brakes locked on firm ground. You should watch my local tire guy jack up a tractor to fix or change a rear tire, now thats scarry but he still has all his fingers and toes. Also to the other poster, I challange you to find a USA made bottle jack these days.

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PUTTER

05-09-2007 10:08:54

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Re: moving widefront in reply to MN Scott, 05-08-2007 20:51:33

Scott, I'd rather have wood any day over concrete block, when they go they just bust all apart. Just my 2 cents! PUTTER

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MN Scott

05-09-2007 20:55:08

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Re: moving widefront in reply to PUTTER, 05-09-2007 10:08:54

PUTTER. Its kinda a long running joke on the board about Allan using a concrete block to support one corner of one of the tractor cabs he repainted. When he posted the picture several guys jumped on him for useing a block to support maybe 150 lbs. I agree I would never use a concrete block for anything other than what is was intended for, building walls.

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Wardner

05-08-2007 12:31:03

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Re: moving widefront in reply to Allan In NE, 05-08-2007 07:57:40

That picture gives me the colliewobbles. I'll bet that more than 60% of the tractor is sitting on that jack. I would have placed additional back-up blocking, splitting stands, or a metal saw horse wherever I could. One little nudge while placing the front end could have collapsed the jack. Glad you are still with us.

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Allan In NE

05-08-2007 15:37:21

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Re: moving widefront in reply to Wardner, 05-08-2007 12:31:03

Now, comon' you guys.

So, say it does fall, right? The only direction it is gonna go is down.

Sure hope you dont' think I'm dumb enough to actually be "under" the thing, do ya? :>)

Grew up swapping these things.

'Bout three or four times a summer had to change from the single front to the wide front, back and forth, back and forth. So, over the years it has just become "old hat".

Allan

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Hugh MacKay

05-08-2007 18:25:45

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Re: moving widefront in reply to Allan In NE, 05-08-2007 15:37:21

Allan: I'm with you, been doing this all my life, if you jack the tractor with both brakes locked and transmission in gear, it would take an earthquake to move it. I agree, one doesn't crawl under it, you don't have to, bolting up those front ends. I'll bet there has been more injuries across North America hoisting wide and narrow fronts into position than from tractors coming down.

We're both 65, personally I have no mended bones or stiches in this old carcass. How about you?

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Krazy-Ken

05-08-2007 12:26:12

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Re: moving widefront in reply to Allan In NE, 05-08-2007 07:57:40

Allan! my dry land friend,I think more of my farmalls than to trust a 2 or 3ton china jack to hold up little girl.Please be careful. KEN

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randy hall

05-08-2007 19:06:36

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Re: moving widefront in reply to Krazy-Ken, 05-08-2007 12:26:12

that is at least a six ton chinese jack. some people are to saftey minded to get out of bed. great picture allan

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