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Smitholm

05-06-2007 17:57:18




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Sister-in-law just inherited a Super A with a whole lot of play in the steering (half a turn of the wheel, or thereabouts). She thinks it's in the steering box, which I can not verify since I'm not where it is. I have some experience with H's and bigger, but I'm not familiar with these beasts. Is this a common problem with them? And if so, what's the typical solution? Thanks in advance for your help.

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Hugh MacKay

05-07-2007 17:45:45




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 Re: Super A Steering in reply to Smitholm, 05-06-2007 17:57:18  
Smitholm: If there is no end play in the steering shaft, I wouldn't even take it out. 90% of these the trouble is right in the vertical shaft within the steering box. I have seen that one alone give a full 360 degree turn on the steering wheel. Two places on that shaft become loose; where the 1/2 gear is keyed to shaft and steering control arm.

All you need do is block tractor well under clutch housing, disassemble the front axle and remove bottom of steering box. I've fixed or helped fix about 15 of these. Only one did we have to touch the shaft, bearing and worm. Almost without exception, problem was in the vertical shaft. I have never seen a set of gears worn enough to seriously affect steering.

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banjo

05-06-2007 20:52:38




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 Re: Super A Steering in reply to Smitholm, 05-06-2007 17:57:18  
Might be rare but part of the shaft worm was broke off my super a.



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RLNicholas

05-06-2007 18:15:33




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 Re: Super A Steering in reply to Smitholm, 05-06-2007 17:57:18  
Yes, a common problem. There are some adjustments but with the steering going a half turn before moving the wheels then it needs a rebuild. This is a chore and the reason that most owners just deal with the slack. you have to breakdown the whole front end--front axle, radiator & unbolt the front from the engine. I think there's rebuild kits you can buy. Also, not helping the problem is the ball joints on the steering at the front axle are worn and contribute to the slack. Like I said, live with it or fix it--that's the question. Unless you're going to be cultivating a garden, you may choose to live with it. With cultivation on young plants, you may have no choice.

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Hobo,NC

05-06-2007 18:07:36




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 Re: Super A Steering in reply to Smitholm, 05-06-2007 17:57:18  
Wif the help of the find folks here i have a few tips, sum my own and sum i have learned here.
I have sold rebuild kits fer'em but see'n as theirs folks on Ebay that sell fer less than they kin b brought I dropped them from my inventory.

Tips There are no adjustments on this steering gear. All you can do is make sure that everything is as tight as you can get it and then you will need to start replacing bearings and bushings. The good news is that new bearings and bushings where needed will usually tighten these up enough to be satisfactory. Rarely is the worm gear or worm wheel worn enough to need that expensive replacement unless you are really particular. After tightening and checking keys , next thing is to take the big plug out of front of steering gear and check the ball bearing on the end of the steering wheel/worm gear shaft. Shaft and worm are all one piece and ball bearing is clamped to end with castle nut. Any play in bearing or in clamping system will result in play in steering. You can also check by pulling/pushing on steering wheel. If there is any back and forth play, the bearing on the end of the shaft is likely bad or loose. Inner race must be tight to the worm gear shaft and outer race must be tightly clamped to the steering gear housing by the big hex head plug. Sometimes you have to put a washer under the plug to get it to tighten up, but be sure the washer does not also tighten against any of the other bearing parts or the bearing inner race. Most of these I rebuild have 1/2 turn play in the wheel and hard to steer. i shoot for 1/4 turn free play in the wheel or less and easy to steer. If the bolt holes in the axle assy are oboblonged I weld them up and re drill, worn holes and bent bolts will throw the caster off enough to cause hard steer'n. if i could tell for sure this is the magic bullet to fix steer'n problems I would'int have to git my hands dirty enny more. you are gonna havta take a look. I have had good luck with this kit but always find sumin else worn, most of the time its just a matter of tightening up thinks are replacing the keys etc. most sectors are reused.

You kin rebuild it on the tractor but enny way you go you will need to remove the front axle. Remove the steer地 wheel and then the big nut/cap on the end of the steer地 box and the whole steer地 shaft will slide out. Remove the Pittman arm then six bolts that hold the steer地 bolster and remove, it comes out the bottom. Then you kin remove the sector for bear地 , seal & bush地 replacement. No mater what the bush地s look like replace弾m.
If the steer地 shaft is bent and most are they are no problem to straiten out. You will need access to a press to straiten it.

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