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Basket Case H-Broken stud Steering nut

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neblinc

04-25-2007 11:05:53




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Well I get to keep working on this H since it has been raining for 2 days.

Got all the head studs out using the 2 nut method except for 1, sucker broke off on me right below the hole. I searched the forums and it looks like trying to weld a nut on is the best way. I may leave it if I end up taking the block in to a machine shop.

Should I hook up my steering shaft to try and get the nut loose? Do you heat the shaft or the steering wheel when trying to pull it?

As long as it rains the honey do list gets put aside ; )

Also have the cylinders soaking with PB blaster, not that it will do any good. They look to be rusted solid to me.

Randy

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Kelly C

04-25-2007 19:23:03




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 Re: Basket Case H-Broken stud Steering nut in reply to neblinc, 04-25-2007 11:05:53  
Had the same problem with the steering wheel on my H. No fire wrench around here so had to do it the hard way.
Nut came off just fine, but broke a gear puller trying to get the wheel off.
Finnaly gave up and broke out the angle grinder with a cut off wheel.
Cut the spokes out, leaving just the hub on the shaft. Then cut lenth ways along the hub almost through. left just a sliver of metal so as not to cut into the steering shaft. Then took a cold chissle and split the hub open about 16th inch. Pulled it off with my hand then.
60 year old rusted parts are so much fun.

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Andy Martin

04-25-2007 15:50:50




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 Re: Basket Case H-Broken stud Steering nut in reply to neblinc, 04-25-2007 11:05:53  
Welding the nut on the stud works good if you have some welding skill. The main thing it does is to heat the stud nicely which breaks the bond. If you use 6011 or 6010 it can still be drilled later if are unsuccessful but I have done many and never failed. I did have to weld four on an M manifold stud which came out hard all the way. I think too long of a stud had been bottomed out damaging the threads.

You won't damage the block, the worst you will do is eat a little cast iron away right around the hole.

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Nebraska Kirk

04-25-2007 12:07:08




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 Re: Basket Case H-Broken stud Steering nut in reply to neblinc, 04-25-2007 11:05:53  
I recently had to remove a steering wheel off of my Farmall H. I got the nut off with an impact wrench, then put my 3-jaw gear puller on it. I then took my torch and heated up the steering wheel in a couple of spots, (you heat the steering wheel because the heat causes it to expand away from the shaft and break the rust bond). While the steel was still hot, I used the impact on the gear puller and the steering wheel came right off.

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CENTAUR

04-25-2007 11:29:25




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 Re: Basket Case H-Broken stud Steering nut in reply to neblinc, 04-25-2007 11:05:53  
Use left handed drills til you only have a shell left.Then take a cape chisel and collapse and remove with a needle nose pliers.You can make a cape like chisel by grinding a bevel on a starter punch instead of a flat end. CENTAUR



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26Red

04-25-2007 11:11:56




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 Re: Basket Case H-Broken stud Steering nut in reply to neblinc, 04-25-2007 11:05:53  
I"d let the machine shop take care of the broked head stud.

To remove the steering wheel, after you get the nut off, the heat wrench works well. I tried pullers, and a hammer... hydraulic press...



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