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How to remove clutch pressure plate on 1944 M

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MattDinMN

04-18-2007 18:26:03




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I have everything removed per the I&T manual, paragraph 198, but I can not get the pressure plate out so I can pull out the clutch shaft. Am I missing something here or are there any tricks to doing this. Any help and advise would be appreciated as this is my first time into an M clutch. Thanks, Matt




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chadd

04-19-2007 07:21:58




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 Re: How to remove clutch pressure plate on 1944 M in reply to MattDinMN, 04-18-2007 18:26:03  
Janicholson is right, every M clutch had six bolts to remove. If my memory serves me correctly, only three are used to compress the pressure plate. If you screw them in to far, you will find out that the end of the bolts are stripped out, because the holes are not threaded past a certain point. Just tighten them until they are snug, and don't try to overcompress the springs. As long as they are compressed enough that the pressure plate can be put back into place and the other three bolts can reach the flywheel, you are good. Now, to remove the pressure plate, you must slide the pressure plate, friction disc, and the clutch shaft out all at once. I remember on our W6, the pressure plate and friction disc didn't just fall out either. We had to jiggle it around a bit to get the assembly to move out. On ours, this was caused by the build-up of clutch material coating the inside surface of the flywheel past the range where the pressure plate was previously allowed to move. It is also possible that the shaft doesn't want to come out of the pilot bearing, in which case, you want to try pulling it straight out. Don't try wiggling it too forcefully, unless you are planning to replace the bearing anyway.

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Janicholson

04-19-2007 06:33:07




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 Re: How to remove clutch pressure plate on 1944 M in reply to MattDinMN, 04-18-2007 18:26:03  
In your post reply, you indicate 3 bolts, there are six bolts on all M clutches (both Auburn, and Rockford) The CaseIH .com Website my page # >Link
might help. JimN



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Janicholson

04-19-2007 07:07:21




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 Re: How to remove clutch pressure plate on 1944 M in reply to Janicholson, 04-19-2007 06:33:07  
If you do have all 6 out, the plate is probably rusted to the flywheel. Sharpen an ole flat blade screwdriver to a knife edge, and driveit between the cover and the flywheel. Don't wedge one spot alone, work around progressively. JimN



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44 massey

04-18-2007 19:08:05




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 Re: How to remove clutch pressure plate on 1944 M in reply to MattDinMN, 04-18-2007 18:26:03  
If you have the bolts out of the pressure plate you can tip the pressure plate and disc enough for the shaft to slide out of the disc to remove it, then the plate and disc!!



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John M

04-18-2007 18:31:17




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 Re: How to remove clutch pressure plate on 1944 M in reply to MattDinMN, 04-18-2007 18:26:03  
You have to hold your mouth just right, and take the shaft out with the clutch and pressure plate. Just takes a little patience and holding it in just the right position



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MattDinMN

04-19-2007 04:19:44




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 Re: How to remove clutch pressure plate on 1944 M in reply to John M, 04-18-2007 18:31:17  
That where my troubles start. I have the pressure plate bolts removed, but still can not get it to come loose. I"ve tried prying on it lightly, but don"t want to damage anything. Everything I"ve read says it should pop right out. How far do the springs compress? It seems like the 3 bolts are bottoming out on something before the springs compress all the way. They are compress enough that the friction plate is loose. I think the pressure plate is just frozen in and was wondering if anyone had a method for poping it loose. Thanks, Matt

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Nat 2

04-19-2007 06:54:52




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 Re: How to remove clutch pressure plate on 1944 M in reply to MattDinMN, 04-19-2007 04:19:44  
Did you remove the 6 bolts holding the pressure plate to the flywheel? It should FALL off the flywheel at that point, as there is nothing else that could possibly be holding it on.

If the bolts are removed and it still won't come off, someone had to have welded it to the flywheel. You'll need to split the tractor and grind the welds off.



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