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The B is finally unstuck!

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bshannon

04-15-2007 16:33:43




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After 9 months of soaking, I finally got the neighbor over to see what else we would have to do. After taking off rod caps on the stuck cylinder we were happy to see the other 3 pistons move. A block of wood and a couple of hard well placed blows got the other one loose! We took all the pistons out and going to put new rings in. We might get the little bugger to run yet.




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Greg Hansen

04-16-2007 05:55:32




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 Re: The B is finally unstuck! in reply to bshannon, 04-15-2007 16:33:43  
If the pistons aren't froze too bad, what sometimes works is after putting penetrating oil in the cylinders for a couple of days is to put the tractor in high gear and gently rock it pushing on the drivers will sometimes free the cylinders up.



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Mike CA

04-15-2007 20:18:26




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 Re: The B is finally unstuck! in reply to bshannon, 04-15-2007 16:33:43  
To me 9 months sounds like an extraordinary amount of time to soak a piston. Why not just cut it out and putll it, and the sleeve and replace the whole lot with an overhaul? It sounds like if it's stuck in the first place an overhaul would be the best thing for it anyway. Which means you aren't keeping the old pistons, which means you can destroy it to get it out.

right?



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Andy Martin

04-16-2007 05:57:13




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 Re: The B is finally unstuck! in reply to Mike CA, 04-15-2007 20:18:26  
He may get it to running very well with just a head gasket and new rings.

Just because it was stuck does not mean it is ruined.

He may even get by without a new head gasket.

It is possible to work on these old tractors for very little money if you don't mind tearing them down again if you are wrong, or if you do not have to have it perfect when you are finished.

A little smoke out the stack just helps keep the mosquitoes away.

I've reringed a lot of them with worn pistons and sleeves which would not hone up real good, but they run just fine and I use them that way. New sleeves and new pistons set you back about as much as you pay for the tractor but one set of rings is pretty cheap. (I don't put new rod bearings in just because the engine is open either, that's what they make plasti-gage for)

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bshannon

04-16-2007 08:00:03




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 Re: The B is finally unstuck! in reply to Andy Martin, 04-16-2007 05:57:13  
The 3 cylinders were nice and clean, the 4th cleaned up considerably after we cracked it loose and moved it up and down a few time with some penetrating oil. I'm not much of a mechanic, but the neighbor who helped felt too that honing will probably do the job with some new rings. Hate to spend too many extra dollars when it won't be used that much.



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Bob Farrell

04-16-2007 07:24:40




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 Re: The B is finally unstuck! in reply to Andy Martin, 04-16-2007 05:57:13  
Andy - I'm with you. Seems some people just like to spend money fixing things that "ain't broke" I've been into a lot of engines (for different applications) and after very careful inspection, reused bunches of parts others would condem. Results after 50 years (I'm 69) have been very positive. To each his own. Bob



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Tom Windsor

04-15-2007 19:53:55




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 Re: The B is finally unstuck! in reply to bshannon, 04-15-2007 16:33:43  
I know you are tickled pink. There is nothing..nothing...more aggrivating than a piston that is stuckand you cannot get to move.

T



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El Toro

04-15-2007 17:40:36




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 Re: The B is finally unstuck! in reply to bshannon, 04-15-2007 16:33:43  
Now would be the time to install a new sleeve and piston kit. New seals on the sleeves will prevent coolant leakage into the crankcase. Hal



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