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Mike CA

04-13-2007 20:45:21




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This is putting the "cart" before the horse a bit... har har har, but I was wondering...

Has anyone ever given hay rides where they had to take their tractor and hay wagon (cart?, whatever you call it) to the place where the rides are given? What I want to know specifically, is can you pull a hay wagon down the highway behind your truck, or are they not meant for that speed? Or does it depend on the cart itself?

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Janicholson

04-14-2007 18:07:42




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 Re: OT / Hay wagon question in reply to Mike CA, 04-13-2007 20:45:21  
My advice is to be sure you have at least 100 hours on top of the tractor starting, stopping, turning, smooth operating, and being very safe with the tractor alone. Then (and only then would I start practicing with a wagon (or trailer) for another 20 hours or so. There are way too many issues of fundamental operating skill and instantaneous decisions that need to be made correctly. No one lets a inexperienced operator pull people on a ride. Getting bonded to do it would be best, but I have no Idea how that would work. It is not 1965. Parents are very serious about safety, and it is serious business. JimN

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Dave H (MI)

04-14-2007 07:15:24




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 Re: OT / Hay wagon question in reply to Mike CA, 04-13-2007 20:45:21  
Also, not mentioned below, implement tires are not made for high speed over paved roads. When I loan my wagons out to the horse folk to drag their hay home I tell them to keep it to around 20 MPH max. I have one wagon that does not sway and has old truck tires on it. I pull it a bit faster.



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Andy Martin

04-14-2007 07:08:52




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 Re: OT / Hay wagon question in reply to Mike CA, 04-13-2007 20:45:21  
You got to check with the local law enforcement officers.

A tandem axle trailer makes a good hay ride wagon, as opposed to a four wheel wagon with steering by the tongue.

By the way, it is easy to keep a four wheel wagon from swinging back and forth. You use a spring to take all the slac out to one side: connect the spring from the tongue to the drag link on one side. I have a Model T wagon with a spring like this and it will pull 40 mph every time.

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nballen

04-14-2007 06:19:55




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 Re: OT / Hay wagon question in reply to Mike CA, 04-13-2007 20:45:21  
What old said.

Also, most farm wagons don't have brakes, especially the older ones.

I can probably start a pretty good argument with this, but here goes: ;->

Trailed device terminology -

Trailer = Wheels mid-vehicle or further aft, significant tongue weight on tow vehicle. May have 1 or more axles (or pairs of wheels)

Wagon = Wheels at each corner (front wheels on spindles to allow turning) Must have 4 wheels, may have more (usually on aft end if more than 4, again for turning).

Cart = 2 wheel affair with weight balanced over the wheels. (Think horse cart, ox cart, etc.)

Nathaniel
P.S. This is based on my current understanding, is open to correction, and is worth exactly what it cost you. (Grin!)

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old

04-13-2007 21:32:00




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 Re: OT / Hay wagon question in reply to Mike CA, 04-13-2007 20:45:21  
Some wagon will pull ok then the next one will be all over the road. It just depends on how tight every thing is and how well its made. Either way I would pull it all that fast because if it hit something just right it could well go wild on you. I pulled one last year about 20 miles and all went well till the hitch pin went AWOL on me and then things got to be fun. I was comeing down a steep hill and then looked back after I got to the bottom and the wagon was gone. I had to back up about 300 yards before I found the wagon at the bottom of the hill. I got lucky sine the road was on a side of a cliff and if it had gone the wrong way the wagon, the rake and the sickle mower that was on it would have been lost

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GeneMO

04-14-2007 17:11:47




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 Re: OT / Hay wagon question in reply to old, 04-13-2007 21:32:00  
We used to do hayrides all the time for our church, but it was just three miles down the road and we stayed on gravel all the time. 1970"s, back in the good ole days. The biggest problem now is lawsuits. You can buy special event insurance to cover hayrides, but genereally the minimum premiums are anywhere from $250 to $500. Untill someone runs all the lawyers out of the country it is probably best to let the wagon set. Sad.

Gene

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