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Choosing the Right Farmall

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Don_3400

04-03-2007 13:05:45




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I'm in need of some Farmall expertise in choosing the right Farmall for my wants/needs. I'm currently trying to sell locally a Ford 3400 loader with no PTO. I recently test drove a M and a H that were for sale. I decided once the 3400 is sold I want to buy a Farmall letter series or newer (my wife liked the M best but my dad had a Super C when I was a kid).

Here's my situation/needs. - I have 35 acres with about 30 fenced off for my horses/mule. The other 5 acres need to be mowed occasionally. - I have about a mile of dirt road that needs to be maintained (blade/box blade). - Living on the Colorado plains, we get a very large drift on our road during storms. A snowblower seems to work best for clearing it.
- With horses, I need to clean/move manure from the barn.

Here's what I think I need. At least a Super C but probably a H or M. A loader and 3 point conversion. I wouldn't mind doing some restoration work, so I'm not looking for something fully restored (i.e., painted).

Looking for suggestions/recommendations. Do I absolutely need live PTO (SMTA) to run the snowblower? Am I asking for too much out of these tractors? Am I off base with expectations? I guess I could get a newer import but I don't really want one, much less pay for it. Thanks in advance.

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Andy Motteberg

04-03-2007 21:12:48




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 Farmall H will do the job in reply to Don_3400, 04-03-2007 13:05:45  
You need a Farmall H, The H is easy on fuel, very easy to operate and steer. Not too much power and not to less power. Most H's have hydraulics, PTO, & Belt pulley too. The Farmall H tractors sound great and work will actually be fun with a Farmall H. The H is easy to operate and easy to service too (even though you would not need to service a H much!). The M's are nice too, but the H would also do the job. The H can be used with a large variety of implements and equipment, You can use a 3 pt or loader on a H, but I would recommend using a live pump if you wanted that. I would get the H if I were you.

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Don L C

04-04-2007 20:59:51




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 Re: Farmall H will do the job in reply to Andy Motteberg, 04-03-2007 21:12:48  
Andy the H or M does not have 3 point hitch.....they can be added for $700 plus labor..... they are also under powered and too fast for snow blowers.....Great tractors, I oun both..... .



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Andy Motteberg

04-14-2007 12:58:45




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 Re: Farmall H will do the job in reply to Don L C, 04-04-2007 20:59:51  
Don, new 3pt hitch for a H or M is $700, but used ones are usually only $200-$300.



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CNKS

04-03-2007 19:17:59




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 Re: Choosing the Right Farmall in reply to Don_3400, 04-03-2007 13:05:45  
The letter series, with the possible exception of the SMTA, are geared too fast for a snowblower.



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Karl Hamson

04-03-2007 18:10:45




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 Re: Choosing the Right Farmall in reply to Don_3400, 04-03-2007 13:05:45  
I love my C and Super A because they make me feel good. However when it comes to work and economy, I use a different red tractor, a mid 70s Massey Ferguson 165 Diesel. It is nimble, has great gearing and live pto and 3 point.
My 2 cents.



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Greg Hansen

04-03-2007 17:51:08




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 Re: Choosing the Right Farmall in reply to Don_3400, 04-03-2007 13:05:45  
My 350 utility seems like a good all around tractor, live pto, live hydralics. The M would be better for plowing or discing.



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jimmyjoe in mn

04-03-2007 16:52:38




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 Re: Choosing the Right Farmall in reply to Don_3400, 04-03-2007 13:05:45  
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For a snowblower I think you would want a least a 560.



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GordoSD

04-03-2007 16:02:51




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 Re: Choosing the Right Farmall in reply to Don_3400, 04-03-2007 13:05:45  
Of course I'm taking my life in my hands here, but I do own two Farmalls and an IH. The letter series Farmalls are just not a good all around acreage tractor. No 3 pt (factory) tall, no live power/hydraulics.Few diesels. You can get all of these, at a little more than the price as an IH if you shop
1) small MF like a 135
2) Ford 800 series, or 3000
3) Kubotas in the 35 hp range
4) 1970's small IH tractors. We Farmall fans readily admit these things, and use the old letter series for a few things, But most of us, if we had to have just one tractor wouldn't opt for a 1949 obsolete letter series. Why not a good 656 at a minimum?

Gordo

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Owen Aaland

04-03-2007 15:26:28




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 Re: Choosing the Right Farmall in reply to Don_3400, 04-03-2007 13:05:45  
You might want to take a look at a 460. That would get you live PTO and live hydraulics. Less collectable than the F series so you might be able to get a tractor better suited to your needs for the same money as one of the older ones.



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glennster

04-03-2007 14:47:16




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 Re: Choosing the Right Farmall in reply to Don_3400, 04-03-2007 13:05:45  
here is a photo of my h with a home made cab. rear tires are loaded, has power steering and a trip bucket loader, i have a plow blade that mounts in place of the bucket for snow plowing. with the chains on it will push snow good. also have a 5 ft i-h model 27 rotary mower ( tow behind bush hog). the h is a lot beetr on fuel than the m, but the m is heavier and a lot more power.
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Nat 2

04-03-2007 14:12:17




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 Re: Choosing the Right Farmall in reply to Don_3400, 04-03-2007 13:05:45  
A letter series won't do it for you, especially if you need to run a snowblower. Reverse is too fast and a live PTO is an absolute must-have because even with a slower reverse, you will be slipping the clutch to keep from stalling the tractor, and you can't have the snowblower stopping every time you push the clutch! The add-on 3pt is handy for lifting things, but not for "precision" work like box blading IMHO.

At the very least, I would recommend as a bare minimum a 300 or 350. Utility would be better for your needs, but a Farmall will also fill the bill. Live PTO, live hydraulics, fast hitch, and TA will make the tractor so much handier than an old H or M with "stuff bolted on."

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james braley

04-03-2007 14:15:32




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 Re: Choosing the Right Farmall in reply to Nat 2, 04-03-2007 14:12:17  
no hard fellings but it will also make it have a very high price.



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georgeky

04-03-2007 14:28:08




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 Re: Choosing the Right Farmall in reply to james braley, 04-03-2007 14:15:32  
Most the time around here you can get a 300/350/400 with these things for about the same money as a good H or M.



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MN Mike

04-03-2007 13:50:30




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 Re: Choosing the Right Farmall in reply to Don_3400, 04-03-2007 13:05:45  
Don,

I've got a similar set up that you have. 45 acres, long driveway that I clear with a blade in summer and blower in winter. I do a little mowing as well. I've run tractors with and without live PTO. I think of it as 4 wheel drive on a truck. If you've never had it, you can live without it. Once you have it, you won't want to go back.

I agree that an M (or other 30hp) would be a nice sized tractor for what you are doing. I run a 340 at my place.

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james braley

04-03-2007 13:36:10




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 Re: Choosing the Right Farmall in reply to Don_3400, 04-03-2007 13:05:45  
ok her i go. i have an M and absolutly love it. For the work you described nothing less than an H perferibly an M. live pto is not nesasary (my opinion). one thing about the loader if you stick to much stuff on the front of it youre back tires will loose traction easy.unless your relly atached to a super c youre all around price-to-work farmall m would fit the bill.



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Don_3400

04-03-2007 14:10:21




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 Re: Choosing the Right Farmall in reply to james braley, 04-03-2007 13:36:10  
I don't expect heavy duty loader work. Ideally, manure and pulling snow off a drift to get the snowblower too it. This winter (which was rough) the drift got to be higher than the top of my 4X4 truck and 60 yards long.



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james braley

04-03-2007 14:12:50




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 Re: Choosing the Right Farmall in reply to Don_3400, 04-03-2007 14:10:21  
you ought to be just fine. might get away wwith a trip buket.



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