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cole

03-21-2007 18:12:00




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I have a farmall 240, that would not stay in fourth. I took off the top cover plate and I can see that 4th gear is worn out. ( the gear closests to the front of the tractor) Do I have to split the tractor to get these gears out. Do I have my case dealer do this. I am not much of a mechanic (points and plugs) but am willing to try this. Do you guys think I could handle this? The below average mechanic. I am going to get a manual, but, that will probably take a little time. Which manual do I need? Thanks for any help or suggestions

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Kytomcat

03-22-2007 19:16:56




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 Re: Oh no. Now What in reply to cole, 03-21-2007 18:12:00  
Cole; you can do this, i tore down the final drive in an M Farmal when I was 25 and dumber than a brick. Had only a few hand tools and had to tear it completely down, including taking out the bull gears and axles just to get down to the bottom of the gear case to put in a 35 cent woodruff key. A come-a- long overhead to roll off the front end, then block up the rear with blocking or another come-a-long and be careful, these old Farmalls don't have a square place to put a Block under. Please be careful, and good luck. Tom

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Kelly C

03-22-2007 07:31:41




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 Re: Oh no. Now What in reply to cole, 03-21-2007 18:12:00  
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Not sure how a 240 is put together but all Farmalls are pretty simular. As others have said you will poop your pants if you take it to a dealer for the work.
Yes you can do it. I did my 400 and if I can do it. Any one can.
What you need are.
tools.
Blue ribbon service manual from binder books.
( Blue ribbon manuals are great because they give step by step details)
I&T manaul.
(I&T manuals are good as a check list. I use mine to see whats next and look at the blue ribbon to see how.)
Need a digital camara.
Take photos of each procedure as you do it. So you can get it all back together. Also is great when asking a question on this site.
Saves alot of typing to explain what part you are asking about. just post a photo and ask. " Hows this go together?"

Time. It will take 5 times longer for you to do it.

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georgeky

03-22-2007 06:47:50




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 Re: Oh no. Now What in reply to cole, 03-21-2007 18:12:00  
What Hugh said, get the book.



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Hugh MacKay

03-22-2007 02:07:13




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 Re: Oh no. Now What in reply to cole, 03-21-2007 18:12:00  
cole: I'd first get an IT manual, that will show you precisely what has to be done, or at least I hope it will. I don't have my IT manual right now, it's out on loan.

I did much the same on a 560 once, and I don't remember it being quite as difficult as most of these guys make it sound. I was dealing with much heavier iron than you will be. Yes, you will have to split tractor between transmission and torque tube. That means you still have wheels on that back half. With internal bull gears, I don't think you have pull the rear axles and housings. If it's same as the larger Farmalls removal of brake pinion shafts allow one to remove differential carrier. Once you have differential out and split at front, both upper and lower transmission shafts will come out.

Believe me, when I did 560, it was 35 years ago, I was and still am no mechanic. I must have done it right, as I blew the engine 3-4 years later, sold the rest of it to a tractor puller. He's been pulling it for 30 years with hp no 560 was ever intended for. I will admit I haven't seen it for 6 years but it was still going then.

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Haas

03-21-2007 19:13:28




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 Re: Oh no. Now What in reply to cole, 03-21-2007 18:12:00  
I'm not that familiar with the 140, but I believe on this tractor you would have to split it to get the transmission parts out. That will require lifting equipment, jacks and so on that if you are not into mechanic stuff, you likely don't have. As others said, the cost of having the IH dealer do it is going to be high. Look for a private shop in your areas that works on tractors. There are often individual mechanics around that make a living working on farm machinery. Look for one of those small shop operations.

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Haas more info

03-21-2007 19:15:06




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 Re: Oh no. Now What in reply to Haas, 03-21-2007 19:13:28  
Oops, should have typed 240, not 140.



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riverbend

03-21-2007 19:08:31




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 Re: Oh no. Now What in reply to cole, 03-21-2007 18:12:00  
If you are well organized, you can probably do the job. Mostly you have to pay attention, make notes, and take pictures of how things come apart. When you replace gears, you should replace both gears in the set. Used gear sets might be your only choice.

As a matter of course, you should replace any bearing and seal that you disturb. When you press a bearing onto a shaft, push on the inner race. When you press a bearing into a housing, press on the outer race. Otherwise ask questions before you ruin a bunch of expensive parts.

Check out the manuals at binder books. I like to have the service manual and a parts book for things that I am working on. The service manual will tell you what to do. The parts book will show you the order that the parts go together and give you the numbers of the parts that you are looking for.

Greg

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L Mack

03-21-2007 18:53:17




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 Re: Oh no. Now What in reply to cole, 03-21-2007 18:12:00  
You might also consider pulling the entire transmisson, if you could get one from someone who is partig out another 240. That you might be able to do.



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Nat 2

03-21-2007 18:46:57




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 Re: Oh no. Now What in reply to cole, 03-21-2007 18:12:00  
I'm afraid you're going to soil yourself when you find out how much it's going to cost you to have this job done at a CaseIH dealer. They may not even be willing to do the job on such an old tractor due to the liabilities with using used parts.

You probably can't handle this yourself, especially with limited mechanical experience. You could, however, handle it with some help. Try to find another tractor guy in your area who's done it before, or even ask at the CaseIH dealer if there are any retired mechanics in the area that work on the really old iron.

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