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Help Identifying Rod/Wrist Pin Bushing

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CSR

03-20-2007 07:03:16




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I am trying to rebuild a C113 and the rod bushings supplied with the kit have to large an OD to fit my rods. The ID is correct for the .919 pins.
The old bushings were p/n 24415D and are .027 wall thickness.
The new ones are .038 wall (.994-.995 OD).
TISCO tells me the .994-.995 OD bushings are whats supposed to be in this engine.
Does anyone know what rods these could be from and/or a bushing application I could look up ?
thanks.

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CSR

03-21-2007 03:04:01




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 Re: Help Identifying Rod/Wrist Pin Bushing in reply to CSR, 03-20-2007 07:03:16  
My Rods are p/n 30926 DB. The bushing p/n I took out is an active number and is was used before the changover which occured about s/n 103xxx. The bushing in the TISCO kit only works above that s/n. They contacted Federal Mogul and Clevite and could not come up with any for me. I contacted Hoobers Case/IH in PA and they have access to a set they are sending me.
I'll let the machine shop put them in a ream them for each wrist pin.
thanks for all the advice.

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Owen Aaland

03-20-2007 08:16:03




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 Re: Help Identifying Rod/Wrist Pin Bushing in reply to CSR, 03-20-2007 07:03:16  
My guess is that you have the correct pin bushings. Sometimes you have to file a slight chamfer on one side of the rod to to be able to get the bushings started without scoring the back side ot the bushing. Light polishing of the bore also helps.

Once installed .010 to.020 undersize bore for the pin is about right. Since they are crushed this much it is not unusual for the ID to be wavy after installation. Good practice is to burnish the bushings. This expands the ID some and insures that the OD is making good contact with the rod. It also helps prevent the bushings from coming loose. They can then be brought back to the proper size with a good sharp reamer but since the proper clearence is .0002 (two ten-thousands), it is next to impossible to do a good job with a reamer.

The best tool for the job is a wet bushing grinder. The pin bushings are sized correctly when light thumb pressure is needed to push the pin through the rods when oiled with 30 weight oil.

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teddy52food

03-20-2007 07:54:28




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 Re: Help Identifying Rod/Wrist Pin Bushing in reply to CSR, 03-20-2007 07:03:16  
Rod bushings are always a press fit & have to be honed to .0001 to .0003 clearance. This is a job for your machine shop, as they have the equipment to do it right.



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K-Mo

03-20-2007 07:42:32




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 Re: Help Identifying Rod/Wrist Pin Bushing in reply to CSR, 03-20-2007 07:03:16  
Not sure about the C113, but many pin bushings are reamed to size after installation.
K-Mo



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Bob

03-20-2007 07:13:35




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 Re: Help Identifying Rod/Wrist Pin Bushing in reply to CSR, 03-20-2007 07:03:16  
Any numbers on the rods?



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CSR

03-20-2007 07:16:17




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 Re: Help Identifying Rod/Wrist Pin Bushing in reply to Bob, 03-20-2007 07:13:35  
Yes there is. I'll get the number tonight and post the number in the am. thanks.



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Bob

03-20-2007 08:15:17




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 Re: Help Identifying Rod/Wrist Pin Bushing in reply to CSR, 03-20-2007 07:16:17  
Machine shops have books to identify rods blocks heads etc. by casting or forging numbers.

I have SOME information but it's not complete for tractors of that era.



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