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what to know about 706

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bob IA

03-19-2007 17:16:06




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My son just bought a 706 gas real clean and torque is good. is there any weak points to worry about. really like it so farthank you




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Kelly C

03-19-2007 21:30:36




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 Re: what to know about 706 in reply to bob IA, 03-19-2007 17:16:06  
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You are going to like that 706. I bale hay in the summer and use mine when I need to round bale some. Other wise I use my 400 for square baling.
Fuel usage is the only issue I have with it. Other wise you get all the modern features you want at a cheap price for the HP.

uses the C263 gas engine same as the 560 just more rpm's. One thing try to use 93 octain gas as the C263 likes to burn valves. The guy that said 1000 hrs till rebuild is full of it.
If you treat her right she will treat you right for 2500 to 3000 hrs.
After that you can repower for a song. Almost any engine from a 460 to a 301 combine engine will fit. $300 to $600
Or rebuild it your self. for about $1300 I redid mine complete. Pistons, rings, all new bearings, reground the crank and got the head rebuilt.
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Owen Aaland

03-20-2007 08:53:40




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 Re: what to know about 706 in reply to Kelly C, 03-19-2007 21:30:36  
Burned exhaust valves on the IH six cylinder gas engines are almost always caused by carbon buildup on the valve stems. This is why IH went to using low ash oil in these engines. There also was a change in valve stem seals but I believe most if not all the 706s were built with the later style. The valve guides need to be machined to accept the newer seal. Installing the newer seal on a guide that is not machined for it can cause more oil to get into the guide that if the original style seal is used.

Oil leaking past the valve stem seals is cooked on the valve stems leaving carbon deposits. as long as engine load conditions remain somewhat constant this is not a problem. Increased load on the engine will cause valve temperatures to rise which causes the stem to expand. The added carbon deposits on the stem can cause the valve to hang open for a fraction of a second longer than normal but that is all it takes for the exhaust gasses to ruin the valve. Under load the valve is running at tempuratures that are nearly red hot. A missfire caused by a valve hanging open means that the oxygen was not used up on the combustion stroke. This oxygen can then burn the metal in the valve. It is not unusual to see a valve that looks like someone took a cutting torch to it.

(Cub Cadets can suffer from the same problem when the guides get worn. The engines dies under load and will not imediately restart. Within 30 seconds you will hear a little ping as the valve closes and the engine will restart.)

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chuck46

03-19-2007 20:00:39




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 Re: what to know about 706 in reply to bob IA, 03-19-2007 17:16:06  
Hi, The engine life should be very good, I ran a 315 combine for 35 years, doing 3-4 hundred acres of corn, soybeans and oats-barley every year. That is the 221 engine which is the same with a shorter stroke and runs at 2800, the only work I did on it was change oil, tune ups and a water pump. I have never understood the problems with the TA. I have a 350DU, 350D, 450D, 756, 856, 1468 and have not had a single complaint. The 856 went 13,000 hrs on its factory torque, and I use it a lot. Good Luck, Chuck

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Sheepdog in NE

03-19-2007 19:26:32




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 Re: what to know about 706 in reply to bob IA, 03-19-2007 17:16:06  
The weakest point is the amount of gas the engine will use, but other than that the 706 is going to treat him good. Don't know how he will use it, but change engine oil every 60 to 100 hours and hyd. filter once a year.



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flying belgian

03-19-2007 17:54:22




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 Re: what to know about 706 in reply to bob IA, 03-19-2007 17:16:06  
Is it the early 706 with the 263 engine? If so you will have to overhaul engine every 800 to 1000 hours. Also there is no such thing as a "good torque". They are eather out or about to go out.



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Allan In NE

03-20-2007 04:19:22




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 Re: what to know about 706 in reply to flying belgian, 03-19-2007 17:54:22  
Comon' now,

Being a little abusive to the old red tractors, 'taint ya? :>)

Allan



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the tractor vet

03-19-2007 20:37:20




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 Re: what to know about 706 in reply to flying belgian, 03-19-2007 17:54:22  
I see you don't know squat about a 706 . As the 263 will run up into the 3-4000 hour range if ya just change oil use the correct gas in it and do the tune ups and valve adjustments as the BOOK calls for . And i would say that i have owened worked on and sold more 706 gassers then most as i know for a fact that out of the 4 I H dealers that we use to have i have bought and sold more then they all did. As for the T/A's the vary first T/A that i installedfor one guy on his 1066 some 22 years ago is still going strong.

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georgeky

03-19-2007 18:17:39




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 Re: what to know about 706 in reply to flying belgian, 03-19-2007 17:54:22  
That is not true there is nothing wrong with a TA except abuse from people who don't understand what they were intended for. I have two tractors with original TA in them a 74 666 and a57 350 deisel. I also have 2 others that the TA is out of, they were burnt out from abuse when I got them. If the TA is not allowed to over run it will last for years. I farm with mine and use them on a daily basis. The 666 has almost 7000 hrs on it and the TA works as good as it did new. I dont know how many are on the 350 the tach cable was broke for several years.

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BobIa

03-20-2007 04:41:50




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 Re: what to know about 706 in reply to georgeky, 03-19-2007 18:17:39  
Thanks guys We will use it for haying mostly move some dirt and snow.



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