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when I use 3 point hitch - stalls my tractor

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Stinky

03-17-2007 08:08:45




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When it reaches it's full height,,, it stalls the motor.

It's a 424... mid 60's




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tractorsam

03-17-2007 15:40:11




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 Re: when I use 3 point hitch - stalls my tractor in reply to Stinky, 03-17-2007 08:08:45  
I haven't ever worked on an IH with a 3pt but I've spent some time on Fergusons. I think you've probably got several issues here. First off even if the system was/is out of adjustment I'd expect the relief valve to blow and you'd hear the engine labour and maybe a whining noise. So it seems your relief valve is probably stuck. Tell you what, thought just occurred to me. What's the temperature and weather been like recently where you are? How much do you use the tractor? When did you last use it? Is it stored inside or outside? When did you last change the oil in the rear end? My thought is that you've accumulated some water in your hydraulic oil and it's frozen and that's what's causing your problem. Hope this helps, tractorsam

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Hugh Mackay

03-17-2007 10:27:27




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 Re: when I use 3 point hitch - stalls my tractor in reply to Stinky, 03-17-2007 08:08:45  
What happens if you stop the lever about 1/2" to 1" from the upper limit of it's travel? I don't know much about 424, however the little offsets can do this if the lever linkage gets out of adjustment. Basically what happens is lever still trying to raise the hitch when the hitch has reached it's upper limit. Just try leaving that lever away from fully raised position. while doing this watch for two things; 1. Point at which it doesn't labor. 2. Is the actual hitch fully raised at that point? Come back and tell us what you find.

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Stinky

03-17-2007 12:17:01




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 Re: when I use 3 point hitch - stalls my tractor in reply to Hugh Mackay, 03-17-2007 10:27:27  
If I stop 1/2 inch from the upper limit it will hold or stay in one place. But it is very hard to find the right spot - it will either drop or raise by itself...

Motor has good power...

Thanks,
Stinky



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Hugh MacKay

03-17-2007 13:08:28




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 Re: when I use 3 point hitch - stalls my tractor in reply to Stinky, 03-17-2007 12:17:01  
Stinky: I think it is a bit more complicated than I first suggested. Do you have a manual for the tractor? Do you know if the draft control is top link sencing? I think your draft control is causing part of this problem, and it could be as simple as draft control sencing stuck.

How much work have you done with the tractor in the past 3 years using in ground tools like plows, cultivators, disks, box blade or grader blade? I'm not saying I'm going come up with the answer, but if we get enough information out there, someone is bound to recognize the problem, and know what to do.

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Stinky

03-18-2007 01:29:51




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 Re: when I use 3 point hitch - stalls my tractor in reply to Hugh MacKay, 03-17-2007 13:08:28  
I've used it a lot over the last 3 years.
I have the same problems in warm weather.


If I find the right spot with the lever it will hold up 2 or 3 trees and stay there. It lifts very well, but when it reaches full height... the engine bogs down or will stall if not reved-up enough.



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Hugh MacKay

03-18-2007 02:38:40




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 Re: when I use 3 point hitch - stalls my tractor in reply to Stinky, 03-18-2007 01:29:51  
Stinky: You only answered one of my questions, and not 100% on that one. It really doesn't matter who comes up with your answer, he has to know these things. I notice you've now gone off in another direction, well if your filter was bad it wouldn't lift at all.



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Haas

03-17-2007 10:22:52




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 Re: when I use 3 point hitch - stalls my tractor in reply to Stinky, 03-17-2007 08:08:45  
Hydraulic pressure relief valve stuck??? Position Control system not adjusted correctly?? I think to stall the tractor, the relieve valve would still have to be stuck unless the engine is really weak.



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