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I need an H sanity check...

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Mike CA

03-13-2007 11:22:05




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I'm excited, so I need to know that I'm making the right decision... I'm going to sell my '46 H!

Now, here's the story. (prepare for long windedness) You guys have seen my '46 H, and may know of the LONG list of parts I need to restore it to an original show condition. Full rear wheels + tires are the most expensive... plus a whole host of other things. I was browsing the YT picture classifieds and found a local guy selling an M. I said hi and asked if he has an H parts. Worst case is I meet a Red Iron guy who lives close. Anyway, he has a '48 H that is COMPLETE, but doesn't run. Motor is not stuck, and he said it had good compression, but doesn't start. It has the wheels with GOOD tread, the H4 mag, the PTO cover... those parts alone would cost me $1000! He wants $800, and won't take less, which I think is fair.

So, my plan: Get my H cleaned up and running better, replace the coolant, oil, tranny fluid, and gas, replace the pipe and add a mufler... then sell it. I'll ask $1000 and take $800. Put it on Ebay and give it a reserve. Then I could buy his! Financially it sounds smart... my only concern is that it isn't running.

So, what do you think?

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leon

03-14-2007 03:46:09




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 Re: I need an H sanity check... in reply to Mike CA, 03-13-2007 11:22:05  
Do what I usually end up doing. Buy the second one with intentions of getting rid of the first, then end up keeping both. Nothing wrong with that I say.



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City-Boy McCoy

03-13-2007 19:19:59




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 Re: I need an H sanity check... in reply to Mike CA, 03-13-2007 11:22:05  
Mikey: I think you are on the right track. But, as some of the fellows have said, be careful you check out the other H really well before you do this. We all want you to come out ahead on this deal..... mike



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Ron in Nebr

03-13-2007 19:12:41




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 Re: I need an H sanity check... in reply to Mike CA, 03-13-2007 11:22:05  
Well, here's how I'd do it in your shoes...do the basic checks mentioned below to help be certian the engine in the other H isn't totally shot. Buy it, and then, while you still have your original H sitting there, get the new one running and driving BEFORE you sell the first one. That way if you run into an expensive problem that wasn't immediately obvious, you'll have twice the parts to choose from to fix it. Once ya get one good one running and driving to your satisfaction, THEN sell off what's left and put the money towards paint and fancy stuff for the runner.

One last thing- look those tires over GOOD. I've seen many a tractor tire with good, almost new looking tread on it that has sat out in the sun so long that it's weatherchecked and/or dryrotted to the point of being darn near unuseable.

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Janicholson

03-13-2007 16:05:53




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 Re: I need an H sanity check... in reply to Mike CA, 03-13-2007 11:22:05  
Mike I agree with your assessmant 100%.
Do this. Make sure the nonrunner has good oil in it, and that the oil pressure gauge works. Do not try to make it run, that increases the value 500$.
With the fuel shut off, and a fresh battery, do a compression check. If it is good, 110-125 would be good for an H (I'd settle for 100), then with the fuel off, and the plugs out, pull it for 200' down the road in 4th gear at about 5mph (nnnooo faster). That will spin the engine well into its normal high idle range and show the oilpressure at cold temps. They usually are near pegged at the high end, 60 PSI or more. It also puts a load on the clutch and gives you an opportunity to put it into the other forward gears and tow it a bit to make sure they are at least not broken (becareful not to pull it faster than a crawl in 1, or a walk in two, or a fast mosey in 3, or 5mph in 4, or 15 in high. Do not do high unless the brakes work well. Then I would buy it. If bad or uneven comression (more than 10% difference between cylinders) or low/no oil pressure, I would offer 500 for the rig just to get the tires and wheels, then trade engines, or parts as needed to get into the parts you need. Good opportunity to do real tradin and swoppin and tractor type goofing off. JimN

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riverbend

03-13-2007 14:18:42




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 Re: I need an H sanity check... in reply to Mike CA, 03-13-2007 11:22:05  
You came here for a sanity check ?

Try to get the 'new' non-runner running before you buy it. At least check the compression, timing, spark, carb, etc. It would also be nice to know that it has all six gears and the rear end does not sound like a gravel crusher when it is moving. As was mentioned farther down, rebuilding an engine could run you $2000 (or more).

The obvious answer is that you need two tractors. It sure made my life a lot simpler...

Greg

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Steven@AZ

03-13-2007 19:29:54




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 Re: I need an H sanity check... in reply to riverbend, 03-13-2007 14:18:42  
2 tractors make life easier? I don't think my life got easier until I had 3 or 4 tractors... Gotta have the right size tool for the job so it can be done efficiently - a guy should have an A, B, or C along with an H, M, and W-9 for the big, heavy jobs!

Good luck Mike~!



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Steven@AZ

03-13-2007 13:18:41




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 Re: I need an H sanity check... in reply to Mike CA, 03-13-2007 11:22:05  
If at all possible, you need to have both tractors at the same time, side by side. This way you can make an accurate comparison and decide which one you want to pursue. OR you can use the best parts from both of them to put together a good tractor and put the leftover parts together to sell - or sell individually (usually get a better return).

If you were to have $1600 in two H's and one of them runs good, I would say that is a good deal. I paid $1500 for my latest H:
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IndianaRed

03-13-2007 13:01:46




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 Re: I need an H sanity check... in reply to Mike CA, 03-13-2007 11:22:05  
Just be careful, you may go from one frying pan to another. What if this new(er) one ends up needing a motor? Probably won"t, hopefully won"t, but could. That"s 2K to do right. I"d keep them both. Or sell yours and get that big M that runs!

Bri



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neblinc

03-13-2007 11:56:33




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 Re: I need an H sanity check... in reply to Mike CA, 03-13-2007 11:22:05  
It all sounds good on paper : )
Hopefully it would just be an electrical or fuel issue on the 48H that would not take much to get running.

Randy



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Don LC

03-13-2007 11:55:42




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 Re: I need an H sanity check... in reply to Mike CA, 03-13-2007 11:22:05  
To get a good price out of a tractor it needs to be running..... .sounds like you have a goog lead on another one.....brough the 800 from your wife and keep your tractor as a parts tractor.....running later or parts it should be worth 800..... ..



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