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Power steering valve thingy

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markloff

03-05-2007 17:04:11




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Hello,

I see all of the char-lynn style power steering units with a separate power steering pump for sale. I assume they are for a Farmall with a belly pump? I say this because a SMTA and a 450 doesn't have a separate pump for the power steering. This leads me to my question. How does the valve that diverts hydraulic pressure to the power steering pump work? I grew up on my dads SMTA and I can never remember not having power steering even when lifting a loader full of snow and steering at the same time. Is it some sort of a diverter or priority valve? I've never given it any thought before but now I'm looking to add power steering to my SM stage two and I'd rather not add a pump for the power steering. I'd rather add the "power steering valve thingy" instead. It just seems simpler and cleaner to me.

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Mark

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T.B.W.

03-06-2007 07:06:14




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 Re: Power steering valve thingy in reply to markloff, 03-05-2007 17:04:11  
The Hyd. line from your live pump goes to a priority valve that sends about 3 gallon per min. to the power steering. You will need a return line fron the power steering motor to the tank. Your pump should be about 12 gal per min so that leaves 9 to run the loader or 3 point. I have live power on my M with a loader and the steering and the loader work at the same time. I got my parts at Steelwheelranch.com. Check with mike there and he will tell what you need. you will also need some Hyd. lines to complete everything. I got them at tractor supply. Plan to spend about $700 to make it all work. I had the pump that ran off the generator belt, but that didn"t work very well, always weak. Tom

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markloff

03-06-2007 16:39:53




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 Re: Power steering valve thingy in reply to T.B.W., 03-06-2007 07:06:14  
I'll stay off the phone with Mike for awhile! I seem to spend a lot of money every time I give him a call! Seriously, good guy to deal with and always seems to have what I need and priced very competitive too.

I looked in to how those valves work on the internet, pretty neat. I just never gave them any thought before. I think that may be the way to go for my project. I'm putting a 2-71 Detroit Diesel into a '53 SM. I'm going to drive a hydraulic pump directly off the front of the crank. I've spent too much money already rebuilding the steering completely. I'm just planning for the future when I can add power steering. I think the valve set up is the way to go vs. the seperate power steering pump.

Thanks,

Mark

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glennster

03-05-2007 17:46:03




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 Re: Power steering valve thingy in reply to markloff, 03-05-2007 17:04:11  
if you have live hydraulics, you can get all the parts you need, oem tractor parts has them. the priority flow vale is about 160.00, the torque generator is 400.00, you will need the port block kit, 40.00, the steering coupler 60.00 and the bracket to mount the torque generator is 54.00.



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GordoSD

03-06-2007 06:23:10




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 Re: Power steering valve thingy in reply to glennster, 03-05-2007 17:46:03  
What is the difference between the OEM bracket and the existing bracket that is there to mount the gages in? It looks like I can just bolt the torque generator to that "non power steering" bracket by drilling a couple more holes. Or is it too thin?

Gordo



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in-a-bind

03-06-2007 07:56:44




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 Re: Power steering valve thingy in reply to GordoSD, 03-06-2007 06:23:10  
Gordo,

You may be able to use the standard bracket, BUT you will need to make a tapered apadapter to mount the torque generator up to the orginal bracket.

The bracket that OEM sells is made to the specs of an orginal bracket that was supplied by the Char-Lynn company when one of their kits was installed on a Farmall M tractor.

The bracket from OEM has the offset made in it, so no tapered adapter is required.

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russ77

03-14-2007 20:48:27




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 Re: Power steering valve thingy in reply to in-a-bind, 03-06-2007 07:56:44  
where can you get the tapered spacer? I built my own kit to fit on my H. I was missing the spacer and would like it to be mounted properly. Char lynn is making M kits again but have not found any info on them for H's. Is it available through local IH dealers?



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Steven@AZ

03-05-2007 19:01:54




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 Re: Power steering valve thingy in reply to glennster, 03-05-2007 17:46:03  
Priority flow valve is available from northerntool.com for around $85.

Torque generators can be found at a salvage yard for around $100 and rebuilt. Other prices are correct, you need the coupler and gauge bracket.

If I was going to add power steering again, I think I would buy a rotary valve and go full on hydraulic steering with a hydraulic ram on the tie rods - that would take a lot of possible slack areas out of the system!

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Jossette

03-05-2007 17:16:25




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 Re: Power steering valve thingy in reply to markloff, 03-05-2007 17:04:11  
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some hydro blocks did not come with power steering valve in it. After market units are in there place. You would have to find a hydro block with the valve to do what you want and find an IH unit to fit the M.



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markloff

03-05-2007 17:28:37




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 Re: Power steering valve thingy in reply to Jossette, 03-05-2007 17:16:25  
Hello,

This doesn't look like the valve on a SMTA. Is it from a 450?

Mark



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Jossette

03-05-2007 17:33:53




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 Re: Power steering valve thingy in reply to markloff, 03-05-2007 17:28:37  
yes

if you dont have power now, you have to find all the right parts. very spendy



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