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Hey Nebraska Kirk, - Live Hyd. Pump Farmall M

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in-a-bind

02-20-2007 20:16:17




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NK, About your post on Feb 18th about adding live hydraulics to your Farmall "M". I told you of a M&W Pump that would work on your tractor and it would not require any changes to the timing cover, or the backing plate. Tonight I saw one of these M&W pumps listed on ebay, the item number is 160087915582. I have one of these pumps on my H, it operates the front end loader, three point, and the char-lynn power steering without any problem at all.

good luck should you bid
gots-2-go

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mnobfan

02-24-2007 19:15:06




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 Re: Hey Nebraska Kirk, - Live Hyd. Pump Farmall M in reply to in-a-bind, 02-20-2007 20:16:17  
I am in the process of adding live hyd. to my 50 H. My local guru suggests putting a pressure gauge and adjusting valve in line so as not to go too much beyond the psi of the liftall system.



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Nebraska Kirk

02-20-2007 21:23:17




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 Re: Hey Nebraska Kirk, - Live Hyd. Pump Farmall M in reply to in-a-bind, 02-20-2007 20:16:17  
Thanks!! Would I still have to change to a heavier cam gear?



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glennster

02-21-2007 10:00:47




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 Re: Hey Nebraska Kirk, - Live Hyd. Pump Farmall M in reply to Nebraska Kirk, 02-20-2007 21:23:17  
i put a live pump on my 48 m and didnt change the gear. had a loader on it. lasted about a year, went to start the tractor one day, gear let loose. had to hook up hydraulics from another tractor to get the loader up to get tractor to the shop, wish i would have changed it when i put the pump on. you may be ok, you may not.



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gene bender

02-21-2007 01:12:33




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 Re: Hey Nebraska Kirk, - Live Hyd. Pump Farmall M in reply to Nebraska Kirk, 02-20-2007 21:23:17  
we ran live hy without changing the gear loader,picker,combine,plow,wheeldisc,hy lift on wagons.



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in-a-bind

02-21-2007 00:19:47




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 Re: Hey Nebraska Kirk, - Live Hyd. Pump Farmall M in reply to Nebraska Kirk, 02-20-2007 21:23:17  
Kirk, When I put the M&W pump on my "H" (20 some odd years ago), I diden't change the cam gear.

I am the only person that runs my tractor, this may help me in a lot of ways as I try to take care of my equipment.

I don't hold the hydraulics open after the loader or three point has run it's cycle, or put a (as we call it) a heavy load on the pump.

I did install a priory valve (sp) that runs the power steering.

My brother has a M&W pump on his M, but it was on the tractor when he bought it some 35 years ago.

He has never replaced anything but oil, filters, points, and such. The tractor was rebuilt just before he bought it from our uncle's estate.

Some people may advise otherwise, I don't know for sure.

Maybe "Wardner"(sp), D. Slater (sp), or others may be able to answer this question much better than I can.

If I were you and I wanted that pump, I would use esnipe, or whatever snipping service you wish to bid on it in the last 3 or 4 seconds of the auction.

esnipe charges a penney on the dollar for their services. You set whatever you think is the MOST that you want to pay for it and then wait until the auction is finished. When its over you either get it or someone else has outbid you.

Some people don't like snipping, but I don't have the time to set at a computer with a stop watch and try to bid on things at the last second.

Hope this info is of some use for you.

Good Luck, Please keep up posted.

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Nebraska Kirk

02-21-2007 17:35:45




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 Re: Hey Nebraska Kirk, - Live Hyd. Pump Farmall M in reply to in-a-bind, 02-21-2007 00:19:47  
Thanks for the tip! I should have used a snipe service a couple of days ago when I was bidding on a widefront for my M. There was only one other bidder, so if I would have used a snipe I probably would have got it :-( Oh, well. Live and learn.



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