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TerryC (MO)

01-10-2002 20:53:40




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Took the head off the other day. Gasket was blown between # 2 and 3. # 3 had near a quarter inch of deposits caked all around the valves, # 2 almost as bad. Having the head cleaned, checked and probably valves redone. All were set real far into the seat; machinist told me they shouldnt be in that far.

I have not checked the bearings yet. Sleeves look good as far as I can tell, no scoring, bit of a lip at top of ring travel. #3 piston is pitted where it was hitting the aforementioned deposits, I am assuming. Just around the edge, ring area seems ok. I figure I might as well ring the thing while im there. Any thing else I need to check while im in this block? I looked from the underside, and didnt notice anything busted up around the sleeves, no shavings in the pan. Oh yes, another question. I want to check the bearing clearances, but i noticed the nuts to the rear main bearing (closest to the tran) are partially up in behind part of the block. It looks like this part is an insert of sorts, but cannot seem to find out how to remove it. Also, what is a good solvent to clean the top of this block with before i put new gasket on...gasoline?
Long message, I know, just wanted to update, and get more things to check while im here. Appreciate all the pointers and suggestions as to what to check, etc. thanx

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DENNIS in NC

02-14-2004 05:34:11




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 Re: 230 update in reply to TerryC (MO), 01-10-2002 20:53:40  
i have a 57 230 w/f is it rare ? should i sell or hold I the moter is stuck



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Stan(VA).

01-13-2002 16:41:43




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 Re: 230 update in reply to TerryC (MO), 01-10-2002 20:53:40  
Terry,
I checked that block today, and the seal retainer is a two piece that goes on the back of the block, behind the flywheel. The bottom 3 bolts on the lower half go into the insert you are talking about. Depending on how long those bolts are you might be able to get them out reching up behind the flywheel, but I probably wouldn't try it ;)
Stan(VA).



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TerryC (MO)

01-13-2002 17:37:47




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 Re: Re: 230 update in reply to Stan(VA)., 01-13-2002 16:41:43  
stan, thanx for checking that for me. Im about decided to pull the block loose and have it tanked, do the inserts and whatnot. Been leaning over that precipice for some time, figured i might as well while im here. Pretty good ridge at the top of ring travel, one piston top bunged up a bit. What the hey, eh?



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ralph

01-11-2002 07:15:52




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 Re: 230 update in reply to TerryC (MO), 01-10-2002 20:53:40  
TerryC: Did ya see the "tip of the day" on Jan 8th? That item (on left side under Research) had about everything one could do in checking bearings. Don't forget the oil pump. The C series has had many posts here about pump backplate warping causing some oil pressure loss. If engine did not use much oil, the oil control rings were doing their job. The size of ring ridge hints at how much wear rings have. Keep us posted. R.

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Haas

01-11-2002 06:43:27




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 Re: 230 update in reply to TerryC (MO), 01-10-2002 20:53:40  
Don't use gasoline as a solvent. It's too volatile and it's a health hazard. Read the cautions on the gas pump some time.



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Stan(VA).

01-11-2002 05:32:25




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 Re: 230 update in reply to TerryC (MO), 01-10-2002 20:53:40  
Yep, no head gasket could do it! Live and learn huh? If you're talking about the rear seal retainer, it bolts in from behind the flywheel. Can't think of what else is up there at the moment (last one I did this on was a Super M and that piece did come out the bottom). I have a 240 block in the garage I could maybe pull the pan off this weekend if I get the chance and check for you. I been using carb cleaner to remove oil before setting new gaskets, works great. Sometimes you can use a 1/2 or 3/4" wood chisel to remove old gaskets. You could also pull the sleeves and replace the rubber O-ring seals if they were leaking the antifreeze into the pan. Just depends on how far you want to go. Have you found any evidence of the head gasket also causing the water leak or is that still unknown?
Stan(VA)

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