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Farmall H Won't Kick

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DMeyer

12-19-2001 14:20:22

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Okay, I totally re-wired my H. The generator is rebuilt and it has new points, etc. I get a spark at the plugs, the enginge turns but It will not fire. I've tried starting fluid both in the breather and in the cylendars.

Any Ideas??

Thanks to "The Red" for past replies and probably a reply to this one also!

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sunny

11-17-2004 08:32:00

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Re: Farmall H Won't Kick in reply to DMeyer, 12-19-2001 14:20:22

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Randy

12-22-2001 00:01:59

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Re: Farmall H Won't Kick in reply to DMeyer, 12-19-2001 14:20:22

Is there a chance that in replacing the plug wires
you transposed some wires and the firing order
is not right now.

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Richard

12-20-2001 10:50:12

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Re: Farmall H Won't Kick in reply to DMeyer, 12-19-2001 14:20:22

I had the same prob with my H after doing a points and plugs, wires etc job. It ran fine before hand. Found out that the points were'nt gaped quite right. a little bit off makes a difference apparently.
Richard

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Haas

12-20-2001 05:19:04

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Re: Farmall H Won't Kick in reply to DMeyer, 12-19-2001 14:20:22

If you used starting fluid and it did not fire, then you must not be getting a spark in the cylinder. With starting fluid, you should at least get a backfire even if the timing is way off.

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12-19-2001 18:16:06

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Re: Farmall H Won't Kick in reply to DMeyer, 12-19-2001 14:20:22

I've heard it said , no question is a dumb question.
So here goes, are the plugs new?
I ask this because I had the same problem, the spark was there, it looked good, but only after new plugs did it fire up, and still running.

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DMeyer

12-19-2001 18:33:42

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Re: Re: Farmall H Won't Kick in reply to EZ, 12-19-2001 18:16:06

Plugs, wires and ignition are all new. I have found the carb is shot and I am starting a rebuild to see what happens. Qusetion for you about your H. I am new to the H so I have to ask. Is the crankiing speed supposed to be very slow? I get about one revolution every 2 or 3 seconds. Battery is new and cables are 1 guage. I sould probably also replace the starter switch.

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TomH

12-20-2001 16:55:10

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Re: Re: Re: Farmall H Won't Kick in reply to DMeyer, 12-19-2001 18:33:42

Should turn faster then that even with 6V. Check the battery and starter cables, if they look rough, replace with new ones. Ground is often a problem, make sure the connection is clean and tight. It kind of sounds like one of the cables has bad insulation or has bad conductors inside.

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JimKo

12-20-2001 11:51:09

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Re: Re: Re: Farmall H Won't Kick in reply to DMeyer, 12-19-2001 18:33:42

I have an H all wired up with the original 6 volt system and the starter turns slow on mine also, even with a new battery and a new switch. But I will repeat what I have read on this board many times, if your tractor is properly maintained, timed, and choked, she will start right up, slow starter or not. My H starts so nice that often I use the hand crank just for grins. Whenever I get to thinking about putting in new points, plugs and wires, I think about the trouble I read about here and compare that to how nice mine runs now, and I spend my money someplace else.

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EZHangin

12-19-2001 20:14:04

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Re: Re: Re: Farmall H Won't Kick in reply to DMeyer, 12-19-2001 18:33:42

I don't have an H, but an A, either way though, the starter should really crank over quite fast. Are you running 6v or 12 v conversion?
If you are converted to 12v, the 6v starter should really go. Once you get the carb up, and a good crank on the starter, if your timing is good you should start almost immediatly with or without a bit of choke. Don't give in to the temptation of laying on the starter for more than 10 or 15 seconds or you will burn it out. Mine had that problem as well. Before I got it the guys at the garage were attempting to start it many times and burnt out the starter. I sent it out and had it rebuilt for $99.00 Cdn, including a new switch.
Good luck, and Merry Christmas.
EZ

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Farmer Bob

12-19-2001 17:52:28

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Re: Farmall H Won't Kick in reply to DMeyer, 12-19-2001 14:20:22

DMeyer, To embelish what Tom H added, remove #1 plug and while you have your thumb or finger over the hole, hand crank the engine until you fee compression pushing your finger off the hole. Take a flash light and look into the hole and rotate the crank so that the piston is at the very top of its stroke. Now remove the distributor cap and check that the metal tab on the rotor button is lined up with the #1 plug wire socket on the cap if you were to put the cap back on. Make sure the firing order/plug wires are correct clockwise around the dist. cap from #1, then 3, 4 & 2. You can fine-tune it after it starts using a timing light with the mark on the crankshaft pulley and the pointer on the front timing cover by rotating the whole distributor one way or the other.//FB

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DMeyer

12-19-2001 18:27:31

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Re: Re: Farmall H Won't Kick in reply to Farmer Bob, 12-19-2001 17:52:28

Did all of that. I also took a closer look at the carb and found that it's probably totally inoperable. I have removed it and will rebuild it. I still thought I would get some type of response from the starting fluid in the cylendars. With the carb removed I also sprayed some starting fluid into the intake with no response when cranking.

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TomH

12-19-2001 14:56:10

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Re: Farmall H Won't Kick in reply to DMeyer, 12-19-2001 14:20:22

First thing to double check is that the spark is on the compression stroke and not the exhaust. Really easy to get the wires switched. Remember the piston is TDC and the timing pointer lines up on exhaust as well as compression in a four stroke engine.

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