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Case 450 vs JD 450

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Hippie

10-09-2002 21:26:01




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I am ready to purchase a small farm dozer and have a line on a Case 450 with new undercarrige and back hoe attachment, 70's model at $14,500. Interested in the advantages of JD vs Case and the how much the back hoe attachment adds to the $ value of the dozer? I may want to sell it loose.




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Hippie

10-10-2002 19:36:05




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 Re: Case 450 vs JD 450 in reply to Hippie, 10-09-2002 21:26:01  
Thanks for all the feedback. Think I will go for the Case Dozer as is it is easier to operate. Will have to confirm which engine displacement. The dozer seems to run out very good. The only thing I noticed is that the steering clutches are very quick. You can't ease them on like a JD. They just bang in and out with a very positive action. Is this a normal for a Case?? Thanks again !!



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Max

10-11-2002 20:52:18




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 Re: Re: Case 450 vs JD 450 in reply to Hippie, 10-10-2002 19:36:05  
Yes, if you don't lighten up on the accelerator a little. Only the bigger ones (1150B & 1450) had the modulated trans for shifting. It cushioned the shifts for .7 seconds and yes it was very hard to notice. One word of caution, decelerate the engine when shifting into reverse or you will wish the shift tower was had better padding while your voice is raised a few more octaves.



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Max

10-10-2002 19:01:25




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 Re: Case 450 vs JD 450 in reply to Hippie, 10-09-2002 21:26:01  
The JD has more hp than the Case but then it may need it for you can't put power to both tracks in turns. This was one of their favorite selling points when I worked for Case in the late seventies. I also thin that the JD may weigh a little more. The JD 450 compares better in hp and weight to the 850B, but then again(my Case side coming out again) there would be no comparison there either. Like a previous post, I would go with the 207 engine for those seemed to have more torque even though the hp output was close to the same. Thge $14,500 price tag though does seem a little steep, I think our store was selling them in the 25,000 to 30,000 range when new back then, but then again a 580c could be purchased new for 25,000 and that was thought to be unreasonable after the 580B went for 17,000 in 75.

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marlowe

10-10-2002 14:40:22




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 Re: Case 450 vs JD 450 in reply to Hippie, 10-09-2002 21:26:01  
been running cats for 34 years. of the two a the case is 10 times the better the the JD!! have had both one i still have and it's not the JDS. but of all i have had the old masseys were still my best. all good things come to a end



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Robert in W. Mi

10-10-2002 14:33:51




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 Re: Case 450 vs JD 450 in reply to Hippie, 10-09-2002 21:26:01  
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I also have a Case 450 on my farm. Mine came to me with 200 hours on new pins, bushs, sprockets, pad bolts. (Berco) It starts, runs, and works like new. (other than the brakes) It doesn't use any oil, and has been very reliable. It's been a great dozer. Does the one you are looking at have the 188 cu. in. engine?? Or the larger 207 cu. in.? Case went to the 207 late in the 70's. Personally, i wouldn't care to own the 188, even if i had to pay more for the newer 207. I like my Case 450 better than a JD of the same age, Robert

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'nother hippie,

10-10-2002 05:17:46




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 Re: Case 450 vs JD 450 in reply to Hippie, 10-09-2002 21:26:01  
Hey there Hippie, This old hippie has a Case 450 loader on his farm. Been a gooder too. Look back through the old posts on the 2 manufacturers. There is a zillion more posts asking for help with the Deere machines than with the Case. Even a stoner ought to figure it out. As for a dozer vs. a loader- for me thats a no brainer. The loader is a far more versitle machine. A backhoe on a crawler is slower to work than on a rubber tire rig. Do you really need a hoe? How much will you be using one? The price looks higher than resonable for a farm crawler. You won't wear the ground work running a machine on a farm like a contractor will. Differant conditions and you won't be running it 6-7 days a week. If you don't need the hoe you can find a Case 450 in decent shape well under 10K. They are out there for 1/2 that price
if you don't mind tinkering on one. One thing you got to watch: that whacky weed will cause you to run the little crawler right out of fuel.

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