Wayne Swenson wrote on Saturday, August 05, 2000 (PDT): I'm noot sure what a "box" plow is, but I surmise it is what I call a moldboard plow. The author confused me by referring to a trip rope on a 3-point mounted plow?? Malcolm Jewell wrote on Sunday, August 06, 2000 (PDT): I agree with Wayne Swenson. What's a box plow? Where we operate way up here in the Northeast we hardly know what sand is. But clay turns to quicksand when it's wet and your wheels start spinning. Enjoyed hearing your story. Truck wrote on Sunday, August 06, 2000 (PDT): Perhaps a Gannon or Box blade ? Harry K wrote on Sunday, August 06, 2000 (PDT): From the comment about leveling hills and filling vales it soulnds more like what we here in the NW would call a "back blade". I have only had a few go arounds with one of those and yes they are challenging. Harry, Oh my back, K Ian Minshull wrote on Monday, August 07, 2000 (PDT): I'm glad there are others who are unsure what a boxplow is. Can we have a photo please? curtis wrote on Monday, August 07, 2000 (PDT): What kind of a tractor do you have that the normal operating rpm is 2700? It may turn up to 2700 but is not the desired operating rpm or operating range. If you run your tractor at this rpm it will have a very short life Rod Swabe wrote on Tuesday, August 08, 2000 (PDT): Here in east Tenn. we call these things a box scraper or landscape box . I don't run my engine as fast as 2700 I usually idle around about 1500 so I can spred dirt evenly . you can bet your neck will be sore. good story , beenthere ,done that , still plowing. Harry K wrote on Tuesday, August 08, 2000 (PDT): Ah yes. Leroy has it. Its technical name is IIRC 'FRESNO". Many pictures exist of them in use behind horse teams constructing railroad beds and the like. We had one converted for tractor use when I was a young lad but I never used it. Harry K Sterling Fritz wrote on Sunday, August 13, 2000 (PDT): What an excellent article. I am sure that it is tougher to plow in the Florida sand, then in more typical soil. I will take this gentleman's advice. It sounds like he really knows his stuff. Lee S. wrote on Monday, August 14, 2000 (PDT): Right on the mark! Was my first attachment! Seems so simple no moving parts, no PTO hookup, looks like piece of cake. Live in Central FL. and have mixture of clay, sand and dirt drive "1700 feet with small hill in center". Box blade-ing up a slope is quite a challenge! Found out real quick my JD-MT needs front wheel weights. Have learned to stretch and warm up before box blade-ing. Saves the back a litle. My box blade art= as my wife calls it, the act of reshaping the ruts and gullies only in different places. Practice makes perfect. Bill I. wrote on Tuesday, August 15, 2000 (PDT): I think you are talking about what we call a box scraper in my part of the west. My technique is to make repeated passes with the blade set each time to just take off the high spots. You can go faster with less traction problems that way and the surface gets smoother each pass.My rig responds too slowly to try to adjust to grade changes as I go. David Nicholson wrote on Wednesday, August 23, 2000 (PDT): I'm curious as to what a box plow is. Can someone clear this up for me, please? Clint wrote on Monday, August 28, 2000 (PDT): We call this a box scraper, too. It is like a back blade with the addition of wings or end plates that keep the material you are moving from spilling out the ends. More efficient than a blade. They often have rippers (long teeth) well in front of the actual blade to scarify the soil and make for better penetration into the material to be moved. Perfect for landscaping, road maintainance, and scraping and moving soil and such. Harry K wrote on Tuesday, August 29, 2000 (PDT): Ayeh, Clint gave a pretty good descrition of a "fresno" which seems to have several regional names, i.e., box plow, box scraper and so forth. I would describe it as looking like a 50 gal water tank with one side cut out. Has a long lever. You scrape until the tool is full, go to the dump site, pull (or push) the lever and it rotates 90 degrees (about) dumping the load and spreading it at the same time. Most of the early railroad beds were leveled and filled with these tools. phillip spencer wrote on Thursday, August 31, 2000 (PDT): In N.C. we call them box blades. It's not that hard to use.To smoth=tilt the blade back(extend top arm).To cut tilt blade forwards(shorten top arm or link whatever you call it). Start playing, you'll figure it out. But above all have fun on that old tractor. anonymous wrote on Friday, December 13, 2002 (PST): Has this person ever been on a farm in his life? What is a box plow? I wonder about the contributors of articles. I wish I had writing skills....I would at least talk in terms people could understand. Jim wrote on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 (PST): AMEN!!!!! markct wrote on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 (PST): this guy aint all that bright,who runs there tractor at 2700 rpm,my ford 8000 is tacked out at 2600,our NAA doestn even rev that high i believe,hard to use on a tractor that doesnt have down pressure on the 3pt? i havent ever heard of a tractor with a factory 3pt that did have down pressure,also his comment about older tractors not having the weight at the rear wheels for traction? im sure most older tractors outweigh and out traction most modern compacts, this guy is just some city slicker who has a little compact tractor and a box blade and now decide that he is the boxbladeing expert, or should i say boxplow. i wouldnt put take any advice from this guy at all, he obviously hasnt ever spent much time around farm machinery as far as i see it NEW HOLLAND wrote on Tuesday, November 04, 2003 (PST): GO TO YOUR LOCAL TRACTOR DEALER AND LOOK AROUND YOU SHOULD SEE A BOX BLADE OR FIND SOME INFO. OR GO TO WOODS EQUIPMENT COMPANY .COM Stan TN wrote on Tuesday, November 04, 2003 (PST): A pair of really big mirrors don't hurt either. Bruce L wrote on Tuesday, November 04, 2003 (PST): The box plow I assume in this article is what I would normally call a box blade. These are great attachments for compact utility tractors. But controlling them with the three point depth control alone is difficult. Most that I have seen have double cutting blades that are mounted back to back and they can be used to push or pull a "load" of material. The box blade becomes very easy to control if a properly sized hydraulic cylinder is substituted for the centerlink on the three point hitch. That allows control of the cutting angle and gives the operator the ability to cut in to load the "box", to drag the load without gaining or losing much, or to actually gradually spread what has been gathered up. Another hydraulic cylinder can be added to one of the lift arms on the three point giving the operator ablility to tilt the box blade. Then you have the ability to really do some limited profiling when doing landscape work. All this control is nice but to keep everything set just right, certain situations require slow ground speed. It works best with a hydrostatic transmission. The hydraulic cylinders used with three point hitches are often referred to as the "tip and tilt kit". I have this set up on my compact utility tractor and I'd have to say those extra cylindres are the key to making a box blade really useful. I believe there is a fair amount of information about them on the Compact tractor board web site. mike wrote on Sunday, August 08, 2004 (PDT): What is a box plow? Russ wrote on Sunday, August 08, 2004 (PDT): Yah, oh yah; As my neighbor down on the farm would say. Technically a box plow or box blade would be any implement which arrives at the dealer or the farm in a box. This is as opposed to a crate plow or crate blade, which of course would at some point be in a shipping crate or manufacturers crate. In any case you will recognize the rig when it arrives since you have either ordered the rig or stumbled across it at your local dealership. Of course around these parts we don't talk much about things we don't understand. Yes sir-ree Bob, wouldn't it be nice to have a picture of whatever is being jawed about, don't you know.

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