I cast my vote with D.O.Bob (I dont think he is so dumb). I looked at all the discount places, got prices, checked ebay, went to my local welding shop and they sold me a Hobart 135 with gas and a good helmet, the correct lens for me, and 2 10 lbs spools of wire for under 500. No one came close to that when you added it all up and you would go them for the gas anyway. If you are welding inside use the gas, outside in wind use flux core wire. Lays a bead even an novice can be proud of. If you do go with ARC, be sure you get ac/dc. For all the light stuff you need the DC. AC will blow holes and frustrate you. No fun in that. AC is for the pros and or the big stuff. Gas tanks are great but welding the light stuff can be trickier than with the MIG. The 135 is a great one to start on. My 2 cents. Bob

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