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johnwayne360 08-16-2009 14:12:32 63.254.158.214 18961 Report to Moderator	I m trying to move my corn/hay rotation a little faster to help my corn yield. I have 70 acres corn and 35 acres hay. I have a small beef cow herd as well. I m not wanting to invest in equipment for the little bit of soybeans id plant to move the rotation along, so i was wondering if anyone had any economical ideas as far as seeding a forage crop to bale for one year, preferable one that puts down nitrogen for the next years corn.tia [Reply]   [No Email]
hayray 08-19-2009 04:48:37 173.105.37.95 18979 Report to Moderator	Re: one year hay? in reply to johnwayne360, 08-16-2009 14:12:32   Red Clover or even cheaper is Sudangrass. I have got 2 cuttings using a bale and graze variety of sudangrass.   [Reply]   [Send Email]
Too Far Gone 08-17-2009 18:20:57 67.221.197.94 18971 Report to Moderator	Re: one year hay? in reply to johnwayne360, 08-16-2009 14:12:32   Red Clover is a good forage for me.Makes a real heavy hay crop.Then I let it get 10-15 inches re-growth and plow it under.Ive done this on some ground every year for the last several years with a wheat and soybean rotation and noticed a big difference on all my crops.   [Reply]   [No Email]
sammydwm 08-17-2009 05:59:37 63.135.140.175 18969 Report to Moderator	Re: one year hay? in reply to johnwayne360, 08-16-2009 14:12:32   Either way you're gonna end up paying for that N. There is no free lunch. You can bale beans and peas if you're lucky enough to get some decent days strung together. Doesn't happen up here too often. Beans were a hay crop for many years but have since been used for other purposes. Run a small grain and pasture it. Let the cows provide the N and don't worry about baling it.....   [Reply]   [No Email]
kyhayman 08-16-2009 19:40:33 76.177.6.15 18966 Report to Moderator	Re: one year hay? in reply to johnwayne360, 08-16-2009 14:12:32   Forage soybeans or vetch.   [Reply]   [No Email]
GordoSD 08-16-2009 18:57:43 66.115.200.140 18965 Report to Moderator	Re: one year hay? in reply to johnwayne360, 08-16-2009 14:12:32   You can plant a "feed sorgham". The type that grows to about 7 feet tall. Or Sudan Grass. The sudan will grow to 6 feet or so in about 60 days. Then just turn the cattle in there. Then in spring disc, and plant the RR corn with maybe 50 lbs area. Gordo   [Reply]   [No Email]
justanothercase 08-16-2009 14:30:26 72.20.68.63 18962 Report to Moderator	Re: one year hay? in reply to johnwayne360, 08-16-2009 14:12:32   We plant haybet barley and field peas or oats and field peas mixed together. peas put nitrogen back into the ground. and the barley and oats make excellent feed for cattle.   [Reply]   [No Email]
johnwayne360 08-16-2009 14:32:57 63.254.158.214 18963 Report to Moderator	Re: one year hay? in reply to justanothercase, 08-16-2009 14:30:26   but can you bale it? or would i have to go to the expense of wrapping it? Im not set up for silage at all. The economics is what gets me. By the time I pay to put it in,bale it, probably wrap it, I cant seem to figure it pays for the extra nitrogen. Or is there another way?   [Reply]   [No Email]
justanothercase 08-19-2009 18:29:23 72.20.68.35 18983 Report to Moderator	Re: one year hay? in reply to johnwayne360, 08-16-2009 14:32:57   We put ours up into bales. We used to chop it but chopping was too time consuming and labor intensive for our operation. Its hard to find good help or any at all sometimes. Ive had really good luck feeding the haybet especially the cattle really clean it up and the peas too. after its hayed and the bales are off we wait a couple weeks and then turn the cattle in and graze the regrowth. only bad thing about grazing it off is the compaction the cattle cause.   [Reply]   [No Email]