It was just on the news. It seems a six year old kindergarten student in Houston brought a loaded pistol to school in his back pack. The gun discharged and three students were taken to the hospital, apparently with no extremely seriously injuries. One report said the gun accidentally fell out of the back, and the injuries are powder burns. Now, people are blaming the school for not finding it. I guess they will be calling for metal detectors in the schools next.
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Smart Arse guy
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Are you being Wacist?
I am a NRA Instructor :
If I offend any one I am sorry and please for give me.
If at any time a child or juvenile or a person with out the knowledge picks up any ones loaded gun weather it be a hand gun or long gun And use’s it in the wrong way. It is not that persons fault all the way.
Why 1. Any time a person feels they have a need for a loaded gun in there home, car, there truck or where ever that person must be responsible and make sure it will not end up in the wrong hands .
2. If the gun ends up in the wrong hands the owner of that LOADED GUN must share part the punishment.
I have owned many guns in my life and I still do; I have all ways said , if you are a person with COMMON
SENCE and proud of owing a gun be responsible and LOCK THEM UP or get a CWP and carry it with you.
If the gun is locked up in the cabinet or gun case and it is broken into the owner is no longer responsible
For what could have happened. NEVER NEVER OPEN THE DOOR FOR TIMTATION, If you do some one WILL take advantage of it. AT YOUR COST OR SOME ONE LIFE.
So be a sportsman and a responsible person and lock your guns up unless you are using them or carrying them. SAVE A LIFE:
AGAIN IF I OFFEND ANY one I AM SORRY;
JR FRYE
If I offend any one I am sorry and please for give me.
If at any time a child or juvenile or a person with out the knowledge picks up any ones loaded gun weather it be a hand gun or long gun And use’s it in the wrong way. It is not that persons fault all the way.
Why 1. Any time a person feels they have a need for a loaded gun in there home, car, there truck or where ever that person must be responsible and make sure it will not end up in the wrong hands .
2. If the gun ends up in the wrong hands the owner of that LOADED GUN must share part the punishment.
I have owned many guns in my life and I still do; I have all ways said , if you are a person with COMMON
SENCE and proud of owing a gun be responsible and LOCK THEM UP or get a CWP and carry it with you.
If the gun is locked up in the cabinet or gun case and it is broken into the owner is no longer responsible
For what could have happened. NEVER NEVER OPEN THE DOOR FOR TIMTATION, If you do some one WILL take advantage of it. AT YOUR COST OR SOME ONE LIFE.
So be a sportsman and a responsible person and lock your guns up unless you are using them or carrying them. SAVE A LIFE:
AGAIN IF I OFFEND ANY one I AM SORRY;
JR FRYE
Know the whole story before you pass judgment. These could be the best, most loving, most attentive parents in the world. Odds are not good that this is the case, but it's plausible.
My parents were GOOD when I was growing up. They could SMELL when us kids were up to no good, and we usually got busted.
HOWEVER, all of us kids still managed to pull some real bone-ers growing up. We snuck stuff out of the house to take to school.
Kids will be kids, and when properly motivated, they can outsmart even the most attentive parent.
My parents were GOOD when I was growing up. They could SMELL when us kids were up to no good, and we usually got busted.
HOWEVER, all of us kids still managed to pull some real bone-ers growing up. We snuck stuff out of the house to take to school.
Kids will be kids, and when properly motivated, they can outsmart even the most attentive parent.
Uncle Ernice
Member
I'm with CR and 641 Dave. The PARENTS are responcible!! or Should be at least!
Geo-TH,In
Well-known Member
If you have metal detectors, like at airports, students would have to arrive 1-2 hours before class and some get a pat-down. There are so many doors in schools and no way to chain them shut because of fire codes. A kid could go through the metal detector, go to a back door that is not guarded and pick up the gun he left outside the door. So much for metal detectors at schools. You would have to have cops at each door and expensive metal detectors. Good luck getting them, when most states are cutting shcool budgets. Bring a gun to school, get kicked out for a year. No exceptions grades K-12. That would make the parents pay for private education. I saw this happen once. Put a stop to kids briging guns to school.
Uncle Ernie
Member
Does not make the parents any less responsible. Good parents like you and I had would be at the school in a heartbeat and that kid will NEVER do a stupid stunt like that again.
I have to agree that the parents should shoulder the responsibility. My son was about that same age when he said "daddy, I know where the bullets go in your gun" I went out and bought a good safe the next day. My guess is the kid just wanted to show it to his friends and didn"t even know it was loaded. I"m glad no one was hurt.
You can say what you want to about the parents but I think CLTX's point was this:
"Now, people are blaming the school for not finding it. I guess they will be calling for metal detectors in the schools next."
How can you blame the school? Oh, that's right it's just like it's the teacher's fault that Johnny won't do his homework or bring his books and paper/pencil to class.
"Now, people are blaming the school for not finding it. I guess they will be calling for metal detectors in the schools next."
How can you blame the school? Oh, that's right it's just like it's the teacher's fault that Johnny won't do his homework or bring his books and paper/pencil to class.
I agree about passing judgement without having the facts in my pocket, but I don't consider a six year old a person of rational judgement considering chocolate or white milk is most likely their biggest decision at lunch break.
I consider a six year old a baby with extreme mobility with hands of that of a vacuum cleaner. Whomever is responsible for the well being of this child needs attention, not the kid.
My Mama has pictures of me at 6 years old with plastic cap guns strapped to my sides and a stick pony under my legs and I'm pretty sure if I could have got my hands on a real pistol at that age I would have probably shot the cow to see it if I could.
I'm looking forward to seeing the news tonight and I'm willing to bet the first images of this kids parents are going to scream idiot to me.
Need a little more info- like parents legal status, race, all the political incorrect stuff. Something similar locally couple years back, little kid with gun and some media noise about too many guns, take them away or require registratio, etc-- then next week it seems a small story in back pages- stolen gun was uncles, convicted felon, fugitive warrant for probation violation, active drug dealer that needed the gun, mother was also police record, some gang affiliation-- so proposed laws wouldn"t have helped. Milwaukee has a bunch of shootings committed by felons not legally allowed to have guns- victims in many cases are also drug dealers, criminal records- no loss to western civilization. Annoying problem is shooters are bad shots and hit bystanders. Milwaukee recent incident- tow truck driver being robbed by knife users, gave money but attacked anyway, got pistol and shot attackers- charged with carrying concealed weapon as crime- Wisconsin still doesn"t have conceal carry permits despite 2 laws passed- Dem Governor Doyle vetoed. Tow truck driver might have lawyer motion for dismissal under Vegas case law. 19 and 18 year old attackers might have juvenile records- anybody want to bet they DON"T?? Goins carjacker shooting took 3 days or so before dismissal, another possible case law for towtruck driver to use.
Kid with gun in school- let"s wait to hear rest of story. RN
Kid with gun in school- let"s wait to hear rest of story. RN
It getting more common. I"m a senior at Katy H.S. and last year a freshmen got busted with a fully loaded 9mm and this year 2 kids got busted, a 9mm and a .45. My guess is the rap/gang/gangster influence is, in a way, making them bring guns to school, trying to be cool. they have talked about installing metal detectors but they said the cost would be too much and would go off too much cause of people carrying change in their pockets, belt buckles and such. Its just too sad to hear about these things cause you now the kid will later be wanted for robbery, drugs or something.
Alex
Alex
Texas has a "trigger lock" law. The parents will ultimately be held responsible, with, I would imagine, pretty severe consequences. I'm a substitute teacher, and I also have a handgun license, but the idea of guns at school terrifies me. Texas is trying to pass legislation to allow guns on college campuses. I'm against it, because of all the drinking on college campuses. Arizona has pending legislation to allow licensed gun owners to carry firearms on all public school campuses. That's scary. While it might prevent a "Columbine" situation from developing, the chances of accidental discharging of a weapon go up. In my opinion, the only people who should have firearms on a school campus should be licensed, well trained, security personnel.
It happened because we took the right away from parents to displine there kids. If we give them a spanking we will be put in jail. The teachers will turn in a parent if they find out that they gave there child a spanking. In my mind we are getting just what we asked for. Sorry if I hit a nerve but our children have more rights then we as parents do.
you think with your emotions and not your brain.
Research what a gun license involves. Same training and background check as a police officer. The same training in the laws on the use of deadly force. But get additional training on the liability of carrying the gun as well.
Thank god its people like you who DONT carry a gun.
Now before you get all huffy.. go do some research and see how many license-carry gun holders commit crimes or use thier guns or have accidents. You mouth has definatly overloaded your behind. This group of people have a better record than cops. So before you cry wolf.........
Research what a gun license involves. Same training and background check as a police officer. The same training in the laws on the use of deadly force. But get additional training on the liability of carrying the gun as well.
Thank god its people like you who DONT carry a gun.
Now before you get all huffy.. go do some research and see how many license-carry gun holders commit crimes or use thier guns or have accidents. You mouth has definatly overloaded your behind. This group of people have a better record than cops. So before you cry wolf.........
yep lots of people ready to blame teachers, and the school and the gov. ect there are 2 people here to blame, those are the parents, or the people where the kid got the gun if not from home, allowing a little kid to have any access to a loaded gun is their fault, the kid needs to be expelled, and the parents jailed,as a object lesson , when i was in school some of us did take guns to school, mostly rifles hung in the back windows of ranch kids pickups, they may need to shoot a coyote or other varmit on the way home, the guns stayed in there and nothing was thought about them,now then there are the messed up kids we have nowdays...
Will- Tx.-Mn.
Member
The Constitution of the United States clearly states:
The right of citizens to bear arms shall not be infringed.
It does not say anything about Licenses,fees,training,background checks, or ETC.
I wish the states would adhear to that.
Will
The right of citizens to bear arms shall not be infringed.
It does not say anything about Licenses,fees,training,background checks, or ETC.
I wish the states would adhear to that.
Will
MarkB_MI
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There's always more to the story that ever gets into the news. The articles I read say the gun discharged when it fell out of the kid's pocket, and that he and two other kids were injured by "fragments". What the heck was it, anyway? Very few pistols will discharge when dropped; it's more likely the kid was handling the gun and pulled the trigger either on purpose or by accident.
Fullthrottle
Member
With everything thats been said here I'll add this, I'm not that old (47) but when I went to high school here in New Mexico there was a shooting range on campus. The ROTC class used it about twice a week. I had a gun in my pickup almost every day of deer season,and other times, most of the time it hung in the back window. I never shot anyone in school nor did anyone I went to school with. Guns were allowed in vehicles and with permission from the Gunny could be brought to the range and sighted in after school. (under his supervision) Not sayn thats what we need now but not sayn it aint either.
IOWA NORTHEAST
Member
I will jump on both sides of the fence probably, but I always thought I had good parents. That being said, the were not aware of what was going down on a regular basis. I have never been sent to the principles office, or got in to any troub...well just a moment...(let me regroup) and say never got caught.
The age is rather young, but I won a 22 rifle in seventh grade by selling the most rat and mouse poison in FFA, and took it home on the bus with out a single question..no gun case either.
That same year, I took my gradpas old 410 to school (again without a case) on the bus to refinsh it in shop class...again ..no questions asked.
The mind set is changing real fast in our world, and the better the story, the better the wildness in our minds charges forward.
When I was in fifth grade, I came home, did my chores, and went hunting till supper time. When you were in fith grade, you were expected to show your younger brothers how to handle a gun in a safe maner..because you were old.
As I stated, the age is way to young in this case, but after the kids get in high school, how many of us would like to get our rear end kicked by bigger kids every day? I would not care to walk the same path as many kids do in the big cities........so defending themselves is just a matter of survival. AND yes, (again) I do understand the kid was to young in this case.
I hire alot of young kids, and they tell stories about when they were in school, and the stuff they pulled.............AND most kids had what is considered great parents, and NO they had no idea the kids were up to no good.
A few weeks ago, we had a real tough incident here, and so far the news media must not have gotten their information from this planet. And the cops were so far off from the real facts, I now refuse to even listen to the stories.
The age is rather young, but I won a 22 rifle in seventh grade by selling the most rat and mouse poison in FFA, and took it home on the bus with out a single question..no gun case either.
That same year, I took my gradpas old 410 to school (again without a case) on the bus to refinsh it in shop class...again ..no questions asked.
The mind set is changing real fast in our world, and the better the story, the better the wildness in our minds charges forward.
When I was in fifth grade, I came home, did my chores, and went hunting till supper time. When you were in fith grade, you were expected to show your younger brothers how to handle a gun in a safe maner..because you were old.
As I stated, the age is way to young in this case, but after the kids get in high school, how many of us would like to get our rear end kicked by bigger kids every day? I would not care to walk the same path as many kids do in the big cities........so defending themselves is just a matter of survival. AND yes, (again) I do understand the kid was to young in this case.
I hire alot of young kids, and they tell stories about when they were in school, and the stuff they pulled.............AND most kids had what is considered great parents, and NO they had no idea the kids were up to no good.
A few weeks ago, we had a real tough incident here, and so far the news media must not have gotten their information from this planet. And the cops were so far off from the real facts, I now refuse to even listen to the stories.
Richard from SE AZ
Member
Gun responsibility is something that parents with children should take VERY seriously. I am past retirement age and all my kids are gone. They all learned gun safety very early and I reinforced it almost daily. We all shot 1000s of rounds of 22 ammo and hunted together as they got older. Now I have two grandsons that are going through the same training. One is 13 and has been shooting a 45 acp and full power 357s since he was 8. His brother is 6 and loves to shoot. he can handle a 9 but I haven't let him shoot anything bigger yet. Safety HAS to be reinforced. Don't keep a gun at home and keep your kids in the dark about it because they are curious and will do what the kid in the thread did. as a kid I would take a 22 rifle to school . I would take it to the principles office and he would put it in his closet and the ammo in his desk. I would pick it up after school and shoot on my way home.Sadly, those days are gone.Training and safety are very importent and essential with familys with kids and guns at home.
Anonymous-0
Well-known Member
Good idea back with Wild Bill, but you have to question whether you have entered the modern age.
Family shopping with a gun concealed in the belt is not my way of living, and to a lot of others I would assume.
Family shopping with a gun concealed in the belt is not my way of living, and to a lot of others I would assume.
cannonball
Member
Just how sure are you about Tx trigger lock law
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